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Coronavirus Live Thread. No 13
3/10/2020

Posted on 03/10/2020 5:22:41 AM PDT by Vermont Lt

Continuation of the thread.

Please use this thread to consolidate the discussion and stories.


TOPICS: Chit/Chat
KEYWORDS: beprepared; chinavirus; communityspread; coronavirus; covid19; cvlivethread; globaldoom; hysterics; livethread; ouceofprevention; sarscov2; usatestingfail; wuhansarscov2
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To: DouglasKC
Best case scenarios are not as bad as you think. First, you can remove about 1/2 the cases, as their infections will be so mild they will not even be detected. Secondly, people ARE taking precautions that will reduce transmission. Washing hands, hand sanitizer, avoiding crowds, cancelling travel, working from home, and staying home if they feel sick. Employers are taking precautions, cancelling meetings and travel, implementing social distancing, distributing hand sanitizer, directing employees to stay home if sick. Thirdly, Public Health Departments are or will be implementing policies like cancelling large public gatherings like sporting events and concerts, advising older people to avoid travel and public gatherings, closing schools, informing the public, and tracking outbreaks and clusters. If an outbreak gets bad enough, actions will be taken to contain it, up to quarantines if needed.

Laugh at these precautions if you like, but they do slow down the spread, and I can assure you that a LOT of people 60 and older are starting to pay attention. Those are the people that would overwhelm the system. As things get worse, you will see older folks getting much more serious and taking individual precautions. For those who ignore it because it's "just the flu", Darwinism will apply. Slowing the virus has been the only goal from the beginning. CDC and Public Health departments have stated this since January. A lot of people are screaming to "stop everything" to stop the virus, but that is not going to happen. The biggest casualties will likely be to our economy, and balancing the economic impact with healthcare and public health policy is the challenge.

441 posted on 03/10/2020 12:56:12 PM PDT by ETCM
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To: blueplum
Didn’t we see doubling in 3 to 6 days in China? So why 2 days outside of China?

Because the China numbers were bogus, it's way worse than we thought, it's only getting started, ya, it's scary, I hate to think about it.
442 posted on 03/10/2020 12:56:56 PM PDT by GulfMan
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To: SheepWhisperer

Exactly 1 week ago, to the hour, we had 118 cases in the U.S. Today we have 805. That’s 6.8 times as many cases in just one week.

1 week = 805 * 6.8 = 5,474
2 weeks = 5474 * 6.8 = 37.223
3 weeks = 37,228 * 6.8 = 253,118
4 weeks = 253,118 * 6.8 = 1,721,201

We’ll see if it really plays out that way, but that’s how the numbers would go if we keep up this rate of increase.


443 posted on 03/10/2020 12:57:39 PM PDT by scouter (As for me and my household... We will serve the LORD.)
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To: scouter

Ya, but don’t worry, these millions that are going to be infected because we didn’t ban travel will get Trumps tax break he’s busy working on ...


444 posted on 03/10/2020 12:58:51 PM PDT by GulfMan
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To: ETCM

I am in complete agreement with you.


445 posted on 03/10/2020 12:59:51 PM PDT by GulfMan
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To: ETCM

Everything you said does slows down the spread, but the problem is the virus moves faster than “half measures”.

Even if the “half measures” slow down the virus spread by half, they have actually slowed it down by a few days at most...


446 posted on 03/10/2020 1:00:00 PM PDT by cgbg (No half measures.)
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To: BobL

Since they all 14 got it, we can assume they took their wives and they all swapped. Either that or it was one talented hooker.


447 posted on 03/10/2020 1:00:49 PM PDT by justa-hairyape (The user name is sarcastic. Although at times it may not appear that way.)
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To: cgbg

Because...

Makes me wonder just how many western ‘officials’ and bureaucrats have been paid off by China to ensure ‘We’ get it at least as bad as they got it...

China basically owns the science/tech/engineering/medschools of every university in this country. Is it a stretch to think they own whole government agencies too?


448 posted on 03/10/2020 1:01:05 PM PDT by Black Agnes
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To: janetjanet998

re: RSA

is this the one Hillary likes to go to?


449 posted on 03/10/2020 1:01:28 PM PDT by blueplum ( ("...this moment is your moment: it belongs to you... " President Donald J. Trump, Jan 20, 2017))
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To: mrsmith

When you are hip-deep into this stuff it gets all over everything.

The concept of PPE protecting people is kind of a myth.


450 posted on 03/10/2020 1:02:15 PM PDT by Vermont Lt
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To: null and void

10 feet and 2 computer screens away. By golly, China has this thing beat.


451 posted on 03/10/2020 1:02:34 PM PDT by bgill (Idiots. CDC site doesn't recommend wearing a mask to protect from COVID-19)
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To: cgbg; ETCM

“Even if the “half measures” slow down the virus spread by half, they have actually slowed it down by a few days at most...”

The goal now is to flatten the curve as much as possible.

Reducing the peak load on the medical system.


452 posted on 03/10/2020 1:02:40 PM PDT by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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To: null and void

At least the party officials are wearing their masks correctly now.

This time last month they either weren’t wearing them at all or hand them over their mouth only.


453 posted on 03/10/2020 1:04:06 PM PDT by Black Agnes
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To: janetjanet998

“BREAKING: Massachusetts has just announced 51 *new* cases of coronavirus, bringing the total number of presumptive cases to 92 — a 124 percent increase from yesterday. Seventy of the cases are related to the Biogen conference in Boston. Six people are hospitalized. #WBZ”

Sure hope the people in Houston are enjoying the Rodeo...


454 posted on 03/10/2020 1:04:30 PM PDT by BobL (If some people here don't want to prep for Coronavirus, they can explain it to their families)
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To: blueplum

“I’m a bit surprised at doubling”

Just started to really test, I assume.


455 posted on 03/10/2020 1:05:15 PM PDT by CharleysPride (Peace, Freedom and Prosperity. Thank you, President Trump.)
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To: Mariner

Please note that if you run the numbers, half measures do not prevent a peak period, they merely delay it by a few days.

To actually flatten the curve you need mass quarantines.


456 posted on 03/10/2020 1:06:00 PM PDT by cgbg (No half measures.)
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To: ETCM

Reasonable post. Anecdotally, the usually crowded roads are lovely to drive. Keep an eye on trucking. Since Trump, trucking has increased on our freeways to pre-2008 levels.


457 posted on 03/10/2020 1:06:03 PM PDT by The Westerner (Protect the most vulnerable: get the government out of medicine, education and our forests)
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To: DouglasKC

Thank you for that info.


458 posted on 03/10/2020 1:06:38 PM PDT by SheepWhisperer (My enemy saw me on my knees, head bowed and thought they had won until I rose up and said Amen!)
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To: LilFarmer

Less than 1% now. Good


459 posted on 03/10/2020 1:07:11 PM PDT by AppyPappy (How many fingers am I holding up, Winston?)
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To: The Westerner

I drove up around Chicago in January there were more 18 wheelers on the road than cars and suvs. It was intimidating.


460 posted on 03/10/2020 1:08:03 PM PDT by nascarnation
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