Posted on 03/07/2020 8:29:48 AM PST by BenLurkin
Googles legal investigations support team, writing to let him know that local police had demanded information related to his Google account. The company said it would release the data unless he went to court and tried to block it. He had just seven days.
He had an Android phone, which was linked to his Google account, and, like millions of other Americans, he used an assortment of Google products, including Gmail and YouTube. Now police seemingly wanted access to all of it.
In the notice from Google was a case number. McCoy searched for it on the Gainesville Police Departments website, and found a one-page investigation report on the burglary of an elderly womans home 10 months earlier. The crime had occurred less than a mile from the home that McCoy, who had recently earned an associate degree in computer programming, shared with two others.
Now McCoy was even more panicked and confused. He knew he had nothing to do with the break-in ─ hed never even been to the victims house ─ and didnt know anyone who might have. And he didnt have much time to prove it.
McCoy worried that going straight to police would lead to his arrest. So he went to his parents home in St. Augustine, where, over dinner, he told them what was happening. They agreed to dip into their savings to pay for a lawyer.
The lawyer, Caleb Kenyon, dug around and learned that the notice had been prompted by a geofence warrant, a police surveillance tool that casts a virtual dragnet over crime scenes, sweeping up Google location data drawn from users GPS, Bluetooth, Wi-Fi and cellular connections from everyone nearby.
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I guess I need one of those Faraday pouches.
I’ve changed a half dozen of those, and MAN those screws are tiny...
Thanks for that info re Apple.
> If you don’t feel waiving your rights is worth the use of the product/service, don’t buy the product/service. <
Thats a fair point. But what were talking about here is essentially a utility. We are not talking about a mundane product like a frozen dinner or a shirt.
Lets say that my electric company (the only one in my area) had a clause in their agreement saying the police can enter my house without a warrant to see if Im stealing electricity. I would argue that such a clause should be illegal.
There is a simple solution to this problem: avoid using Google for anything. Google has one purpose. They exist to collect and assemble data about you, your family and neighbors so they can package and sell it to businesses, governments and NGOs and they can manipulate you.
Their research group is open and honest about this. This is especially true if you are conservative. If they cannot successful propagandize you to their position the will seek to isolate and ostracize you so you cannot counter their propaganda efforts with your dangerous ideas and radical thinking.
Google is flat out evil and possibly the most dangerously evil company in the world.
There's plenty of gotchas in your assumptions. I read the exploit reports. The only way to win is not to play, HHOS. I give Apple points for verifiably attempting to hold the line, but it's impossible to avoid nation state interference or unethical/criminal exploiters piggybacking on the state actor exploits. Hedging is the best you can do. Think different, heheh.
“Kind of like those constables down Somerset Kentucky who were making a killing off of asset forfeiture and the FBI finally came after them. It’s too bad the one that got shot is going to live.”
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Yikes! I missed that story.
Got a link? I do not like Asset Forfeiture Laws. It’s a ripe recipe for making Dirty Cops/Feds/LEOs.
https://www.google.com/maps/timeline?pb
The link is one of several waves to view your Google timeline history.
It can also be found via the google maps app.
You may have to log in to google.
Mao, Stalin, Hitler, and others are anguishing in hell over the fact that they never had the great advantages that the police state in the U.S. has at it's disposal...
Like Ronald Reagan said (In 1964):
"You and I have a rendezvous with destiny. We will preserve for our children this, the last best hope of man on Earth, or we will sentence them to take the last step into a thousand years of darkness.
This Nation is certainly well into the first decades of that "last step"...
Uh oh. This might make it obvious to the libertarians that Google is actually a behind the scenes arm of the government.
Yup. Like the loss of your freedom of speech on public participation communications systems.
Except for school zones, if you aren’t speeding in Texas, you are a traffic hazard.
I’m on my phone so I’m going to let you do the work.
In your search engine put FBI agent shot Somerset Kentucky. You get all the stories you want
Thank you, ChildOfThe60s!
You will have to read carefully, probably more than one article, to catch that they were ripping off innocent people. I didn’t find it until I knew to look for it.
I kinda wonder why the nature of their crimes got so little mention. /sarc
I tried to find out more details; noticed, like you did, extremely little on the details of what they’re alleged to have done.
It’s extremely frustrating to think that the criminals they helped to put away probably have valid grounds for dismissal of their charges/convictions.
I’d rather let someone go than to risk a false charge by a corrupt LEO.
That said, then nail the LEO to the wall for all the expense that will be caused and have the prison sentence appropriate with the heartache that will be caused to the actual victims of criminals, should said criminals have to be released.
I just HATE dirty LEOs of any status/placement/agency. And that includes dirty judges. I really HATE them even more because they often go along with the corrupt LEOs.
Off my soapbox.
P.S. I wrote the title down and hope to find out more as the case goes forth. So much information is learned from this site! Again, thank you!
As I noted in an earlier post, these two deserve to end up in Dante’s Ninth Circle of hell. An area reserved for the betrayers.
This isn't Google's fault. They're just responding to a warrant, and in fact are notifying the consumer to give him a chance to contest it.
Nothing different than any cell provider could be asked for.
You really need a new boogieman to be the object of your anxieties.
A geofence is an imaginary boundary (any shape) defined by latitude and longitude (lat/lon), in which the interest is about devices crossing into and/or out of the area inside the boundary.
I imagine they are looking for devices that came into the area and left the area during the time when they think the incident took place.
Conversely - anyone could be exonerated if their device was not detected in the fence during that time period. If the guy was biking, and didn’t stop as he was going by, they’ll take him off the list. Typical pings (sampling) range from one to three minutes. A bike at 10-15 mph would cover between .2 and .5 miles between pings. If he wasn’t still for three or four pings, at the house’s lat/lon, he should be in the clear.
Microwave oven
...if you can mount one on the bike
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