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Ali Arouzi
@aliarouzi
#Iran’s health minister says that 300000 teams, including members of the Basij are going to be deployed nationwide to go from house to house to find people that may have contracted #CoronaVirus as Iran scrambles to deal with outbreak.
Most governments? Probably as an excuse to gather more power to themselves. Governments generally love crises.
If Hospital beds ran out health Authorities would commandeer municipal halls/auditoriums for “Field” hospitals.
Why? The mortality rate is very high compared to the flu. Consider 4.5% in US and even higher in Italy. Consider the permanent damage. But probably because there is more to this than a super flu. China didn’t shut down the country and bulldoze roads for a simple flu. That’s a reality check on why to take this seriously and ask more about it all. Was the source the biological labs in Wuhan? Lots of questions...
“The truth is that governments all over the world are taking it very seriously.”
So, the conclusion is that the government is good and knowledgeable and doing the right thing when we know government is actually full of idiot left wingers who are reactionary to public consensus??
This post is worthless. You don’t say anything new, or useful.
A thoughtful attempt. I believe we will find medical treatment of some sort could be 10% of those that get infected, but hospitalization at 1% or less. We will see. I just am not that concerned in the grand scheme of things.
“Some type of medical intervention...”
That does not mean hospitalization. It means you may have to go to a doc for some drugs to help knock down the bronchitis or pneumonia
The hysteria is over blown
I think you are exactly right.
And summer is coming which may help, but they have to slow it enough for warmer weather to start helping.
Every hotspot has to be contained.
I think much of the fear is of the virus mutating.
In 2002 a southern China coronavirus mutated by the time it got to Canada. It became a lot more lethal but also a lot less transmittable, so it quickly petered out.
But what if the mutation increased transmission instead of decreased.
There will be so many of these viruses over hundreds of years, only a rare few will mutate into something terrible. Which one? Who knows.
Sure, this one probably won’t kill anything like a superflu, but there’s that rare chance it mutates into something worse than it is now.
I don’t see many people addressing this subject of mutation
Because in this modern day world everybody expect governments to solve everything. We’re overly dependent.
They are not going to die. Not most of them.
It will overwhelm critical care situations. But any virus on top of the flu would do that. Don’t have a heart attack when that happens.
It is likely this will “fade” by summer and come back. The second time around the globe was the worst for the Spanish Flu. They could be willing to let it run now, and gear up for fall.
The economic impact will be greater than the health to you and me.
The mistake that this post makes is that the 20% who may require more intense medical treatment won’t all require it at once. This would be spread over several months as people recover and free up hospital resources for others.
Also, a lot of hospital beds are used for recovery of elective surgery procedures which could be postponed in the event the beds are needed for the critically ill.
A greater concern is the impact that the higher transmissibility of the virus might have on health care workers if a significant number need to be removed from their duties to prevent spreading the infection. One strategy would be to train up a medical reserve force in essential care and safety measures to supplement the professionals if they are depleated.
A designer disease from the One World Government crowd?
Massive world depopulation is very likely if your numbers hold true.
Your analysis misses the point that in developed nations like the US and Europe, sanitation, public health measures, and medical research, prevention, and care are far more substantial and effective than in China and most of Asia. Moreover, the form of government makes a difference, with ethnically Chinese but free Taiwan and Singapore doing a far better job of dealing with the virus than mainland China. When COVID-19 reaches the US in force, it is likely to have only a relatively small impact on American public health.
Here is what I think happened. China came out with their bland statements. The intel community looked at the satellite photos, saw bodies on the streets, (which we have all seen videos of) and said, “They’re lying.” Trump had to make a call. He froze traffic from the affected areas. Trump can’t come out and say the Chinese are lying because he has to keep communications open with them. If he causes them to lose face, or provokes riots in China and Xi gets deposed, then communications break down and China goes from horrible to worse. That would be bad for everybody. As horrible as the CCP is, it is keeping order and is doing something. Believe it or not, things would be much worse right now if they were not in charge. Also, if there is a civil war it will be a civil war with nukes.
But, worst of all, the US and the world are sourcing 80-90% of our medicines and medical supplies from China. In the short term that could be a biblical disaster. I am certain that Trump is addressing that situation as he already was addressing the imbalance in other supplies behind the scenes. Despite what the ridiculous Democratic clown parade says, Trump is the right man in the right job at the right time. Let’s hope we have sufficient time to recover so this doesn’t become a biblical disaster.
You got that right.
A few years ago when I was taken by ambulance with my second stroke in mid winter, the hospital , just south of Boton was at overcapacity, with people in beds sleeping in the corridors.
Also you can't just have more competent doctors and nurses immediately available. -Tom
Talk about overthinking it.
Sorry, but who has any idea what you’re trying to say.
Don’t take this personal. I’m just being straightforward.
Be afraid!
18,500,000 X 20% = 3,700,000 requiring hospitalization.
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What happened to "other intervention" in your calculations? The next line down you use the full 20% to calculate hospitalizations. What if say 3% need hospitalizations and other will need a doctor's visit/medications, some will ignore symptoms until they are ill enough to need an ER and are sent home with meds (in CA many undocumented go to the ER if they can't control symptoms), some will have complications from other illnesses, some may just have an ugly flu experience that causes them to tough it out at home with meds longer than usual.
It should read,
18,500,000 X 20% = 3,700,000 requiring medical intervention.
WHo knows how many of those 20% need prescriptions vs hospitalization? What percentages apply to severe flu years in the past?