Posted on 02/29/2020 5:48:03 PM PST by bitt
Haskell County, Kansas, lies in the southwest corner of the state, near Oklahoma and Colorado. In 1918 sod houses were still common, barely distinguishable from the treeless, dry prairie they were dug out of. It had been cattle country—a now bankrupt ranch once handled 30,000 head—but Haskell farmers also raised hogs, which is one possible clue to the origin of the crisis that would terrorize the world that year. Another clue is that the county sits on a major migratory flyway for 17 bird species, including sand hill cranes and mallards. Scientists today understand that bird influenza viruses, like human influenza viruses, can also infect hogs, and when a bird virus and a human virus infect the same pig cell, their different genes can be shuffled and exchanged like playing cards, resulting in a new, perhaps especially lethal, virus.
We cannot say for certain that that happened in 1918 in Haskell County, but we do know that an influenza outbreak struck in January, an outbreak so severe that, although influenza was not then a “reportable” disease, a local physician named Loring Miner—a large and imposing man, gruff, a player in local politics, who became a doctor before the acceptance of the germ theory of disease but whose intellectual curiosity had kept him abreast of scientific developments—went to the trouble of alerting the U.S. Public Health Service. The report itself no longer exists, but it stands as the first recorded notice anywhere in the world of unusual influenza activity that year. The local newspaper, the Santa Fe Monitor, confirms that something odd was happening around that time: “Mrs. Eva Van Alstine is sick with pneumonia...Ralph Lindeman is still quite sick...Homer Moody has been reported quite sick...Pete Hesser’s three children have pneumonia
(Excerpt) Read more at smithsonianmag.com ...
Exactly! I doubted that was happening from the first time it was said. It goes against all experience with viruses and common sense.
And once again...I am telling you to stop stalking me
AND
I don’t care what he says. There are valid questions concerning people who have recovered and got it AGAIN. Questions needs to be answer like the ones I put in my post.
A doctor ON THE FRONT LINE OF THIS IN CHINA has said patients are getting it twice.
But it may be a factor of faulty testing. We don’t know. It could be that you recover.. test negative but you still have it and it flares up again like Herpes. WE DO NOT KNOW.
And one more time
https://www.jpost.com/Breaking-News/Third-person-tests-positive-for-coronavirus-in-Israel-619215
A few DUCKDUCKGO hits revealed that others believe there may be something to garlic and onion in relation to colds and flu.
"Onions contain the same compound, allicin, that gives garlic its famous infection-fighting qualities, according to pharmacist J. Albert Hermle, author of the book "Finally!!! Stop Having Colds & Flu."
Allicin has the ability to slow and kill a variety of viruses and bacteria."
DO GARLIC and ONIONS KILL FLU AND COLD VIRUSES?
Other internet hits I looked at also say it may help. So based on your grandfather's experience, I will add some things to my diet along with some other things that sound like good ideas.
Who knows, there is a possibility that he was right about his "theory!"
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“A doctor ON THE FRONT LINE OF THIS IN CHINA”
WOW! A doctor, and IN COMMUNIST CHINA at that! what an amazingly credible source!
i guess Dr. Antony Fauci who’s in charge of this in the U.S. is chopped liver ...
Why do you doubt it from the guy from Israel. He recovered and got it again.
It may very well be it stays lurking and you truly aren’t recovered
There IS NO DOUBT that people who have “recovered” have got it again. You are seeing it in case after case..even if you don’t believe the Dr from China who revealed it.
I think it may be that you are not truly recovered and it is lurking in there ready to flare up again. Which means you may or may not be shedding during that time frame that you are “recovered”
then the second flare up is what is causing the heart issues.
But to say recovered people aren’t getting again IS NOT CORRECT
They ARE getting it again
And you dont believe people in Israel..the place that is trying to come up with the vaccine the fastest. ISRAEL is telling you they are getting it again
It’s is ridiculous. That’s why. Relapses are possible. Re-infection is not.
So your belief is that when they test negative after having it in a country that has better tests than the CDC it means what?
Postive. Sick. treated. Recovered. Test Negative
Then get it again.
What does that mean? Are they recovered or not when the test comes back negative and they have no symptoms.
I had read the Spanish Flu started in the same place most flu and other pandemics started, China.
If you’ve had a viral infection once you will have anti-bodies for that strain of virus for the rest of your life and test positive for the rest of your life.
Somebody posted a lengthy article talking about this and they traced it to Haskell. I think Kansas. The thread was posted today
not even close ... the jpost article said:
"Shimon Dahan returned from quarantine in Japan after having having been PRESUMED to be recovered"
BIG difference between "reinfected" and "presumed to have recovered" ... you ever heard of a relapse because you thought you were recovered, but hadn't actually recovered?
your ignorant fear-mongering here really ought to stop ... you aren't doing any good for anyone here by trying to spread your ignorant, lying crap ...
This is the sequence.
Positive. Treated. Recovered. NEGATIVE.
Then get it again. Or Relapse. Or whatever word you want to use.
SO I am asking you..when they get the NEGATIVE test..does that mean they are recovered and not shedding the virus..or does that mean they still could have it and shedding the virus.
Your antibody answer doesn’t answer that question because after having the virus people are testing NEGATIVE when “cured”
And then they get SICK with SYMPTOMS again. and test positive.
So in between there are NEGATIVE tests when they have no symptoms
I posit the theory that the tests are not reliable and the Negative doesn’t really mean Negative.
btw, just to clarify there is more than one test. One test shows whether you currently have it. There is another test that shows whether you had it.
YOu really are an idiot. You think they just let people off that ship without testing them. PLEASE STAY AWAY FROM ME
Rachel Biton, one of the four Israelis who contracted coronavirus while aboard the Diamond Princess cruise ship in Japan, has recovered and was released from the hospital on Tuesday.
She underwent numerous tests to ensure she no longer had any trace of the highly contagious virus. One of her family members remained hospitalized in a Tokyo military hospital.
Why Was My Rapid Flu Test Negative?The rapid flu tests that most healthcare providers use are a great tool, but they can be wrong. Accuracy can range anywhere from 50 to 90 percent, depending on the test and prevalence of the flu in the community.
An excerpt worth reading:
“In many parts of the world the first wave either was so faint as to be hardly perceptible or was altogether lacking...and was everywhere of a mild form.” Some experts argued that it was too mild to be influenza.”
It made a couple of laps around the world.
Once you've had a virus you can't hide it.
I think the inherent problem in all of this is the unreliability of the tests.
Read that blurb I posted about Rachel. She underwent extensive testing. She had to take another test before entering Israel. The same will be said of that man who has gotten it again.
So it seems to be nobody has a handle on when you can be shedding the virus.
They clearly were cleared to come into Israel. So the choice is the guy was weakened and got it again from someone else
Or he still had it even though he tested negative and it flared up again. In the meantime, he could be shedding the virus all over the place
I dont have the answer.
But what we do know is that you can be considered recovered...test negative..and get it again and have symptoms.
I understand there is a test to determine whether you had it. That is a different test. There is a test to see if you HAVE it currently.
US uses it.
Japan uses it.
Israel uses it.
And perhaps it is not all that reliable.
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