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The ‘Dating Market’ Is Getting Worse: The old but newly popular notion that one’s love life can be analyzed like an economy is flawed—and it’s ruining romance.
The Atlantic ^ | February 25, 2020 | Ashley Fetters and Kaitlyn Tiffany

Posted on 02/26/2020 6:02:27 AM PST by C19fan

Ever since her last relationship ended this past August, Liz has been consciously trying not to treat dating as a “numbers game.” By the 30-year-old Alaskan’s own admission, however, it hasn’t been going great.

Liz has been going on Tinder dates frequently, sometimes multiple times a week—one of her New Year’s resolutions was to go on every date she was invited on. But Liz, who asked to be identified only by her first name in order to avoid harassment, can’t escape a feeling of impersonal, businesslike detachment from the whole pursuit.

“It’s like, ‘If this doesn’t go well, there are 20 other guys who look like you in my inbox.’ And I’m sure they feel the same way—that there are 20 other girls who are willing to hang out, or whatever,” she said. “People are seen as commodities, as opposed to individuals.”

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TOPICS: Society
KEYWORDS: dating; economics; love; marriage; materialism; men; pua; redpill; romance; woman; women
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To: Lou L

I think being in Alaska, where there are basically no people, all of those points have to be even more greatly accentuated


21 posted on 02/26/2020 6:45:15 AM PST by ConservativeDude
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To: PeterPrinciple
“People are seen as commodities, as opposed to individuals.”

Once a girl has hit the wall and is single, she is suddenly subject to the cruel treatment she has thoughtlessly and gleefully meted out to men since she reached puberty.

And then she has the nerve to look surprised, and to complain.

Top. Kek.

22 posted on 02/26/2020 6:46:35 AM PST by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change with out notice.)
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To: oldplayer

+1


23 posted on 02/26/2020 6:46:56 AM PST by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change with out notice.)
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To: Lou L

“upgrade their financial situation”

what he said. Its called “Trading Up”.


24 posted on 02/26/2020 6:47:14 AM PST by RitchieAprile (available monkeys looking for the change..)
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To: Georgia Girl 2
Why is she having a problem? The men to women ratio in Alaska is heavily tilted toward women. If she doesn’t look like a yeti she should be flooded with dates.

I vacationed in Alaska and attended a "This is Alaska" type comedy revue / musical.

One of the sayings the women had:

"The odds are good, but the goods are odd."

25 posted on 02/26/2020 6:48:30 AM PST by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change with out notice.)
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To: grey_whiskers

“The odds are good, but the goods are odd.”

Perfect description of Alaska.


26 posted on 02/26/2020 6:51:51 AM PST by mad_as_he$$
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To: C19fan

As a complete failure on the dating scene, I can give wisdom for my mistakes as well as those who were successful. Online dating works if you don’t worry about the twenty and focus on the one in front of you. Those that I know had successful relationships from the electronic scene met very few people.

The second big one is to rely on people you know: coworkers, friends, family, church. A lovely couple a church point blank asked me if I was interested in meeting someone. I’m not, but the offer is open for them to look around their social circle.

I think part of the problem is that older people asking this question is increasingly rare and others meddle less than before in getting couples together.

I have two friends who, once you go below the surface, have arranged marriages. The marriages a recent. Both couples are flourishing thanks to a couple of enterprising moms in one case and a dad and uncle in the other.


27 posted on 02/26/2020 6:55:01 AM PST by PrincessB
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To: grey_whiskers

“. . . she is suddenly subject to the cruel treatment she has thoughtlessly and gleefully meted out to men since she reached puberty.”

+ + + +

Now there’s a nice turn of phrase.


28 posted on 02/26/2020 6:58:30 AM PST by oldplayer
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To: Cecily

The problem is women get a false sense of worth on those sites, they sign on, post a few pictures and within 6 hours get about 200 messages, she picks the top 5, which are usually the the top 5 picked by 80% of the other women on that site, these guys know they can just get easy sex this way so they get these women over to their places and they bang, dump and move on to the next.

That is why she says there are 20 guys who look just like the one she was with and they will act the exactly the same way. The top 5% of attractiveness on these sites, don’t need these sites, these guys have massive social circles and are only on the site to pump and dump. Women seem to not figure this out and get all butthurt when the attractive top tier guys don’t commit or pump and dump. She is probably average in looks herself but since she got 200 emails on some dating site she thinks she is a super model. It gives her a false sense of inflated sexual worth as well.

Before dating sites a woman like this would have ended up dating average guys, and one of those average looking guys would have committed to her and made her his wife. That opportunity no longer exists anymore with online dating. Why settle for “average” when handsome and highly attractive men just keep emailing her daily? She will go through 20-30 of these guys, they all play the same game on her and then she sits home alone one night with her two cats, with an open bottle of cheap wine, typing on her blog about how bad and evil men are.....


29 posted on 02/26/2020 7:02:21 AM PST by Trump.Deplorable
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To: C19fan
Q: How's your love life?

A: I'm holding my own.

30 posted on 02/26/2020 7:06:00 AM PST by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: CIB-173RDABN

Have you watched Coach Greg Adams?


31 posted on 02/26/2020 7:07:58 AM PST by JohnnyP (Thinking is hard work (I stole that from Rush).)
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To: ConservativeDude
Well...just “doing the numbers”....this gal is starting in, shall we say, a pretty disadvantaged position....

It gets worse for women as the population ages. That's just fact.

The ratio of available men vs. available women skews heavily in favor of men as we age. Fewer men available due to a number of factors, primarily because (a) we tend to die sooner than women and (b) men who opt out of dating after divorce.

I divorced four years ago this coming July and getting dates hasn't been an issue. Getting quality dates was the issue for me. Of all my divorced friends, I'm the luckiest as I've been seeing the same woman now for 18 months and she's fantastic. Yes, she has her "batshit crazy" moments but they're pretty few and far between. We're in sync together on about 80% of things and the other 20% we're both very flexible on. I don't think either one of us ever wants to get married again and honestly, I like having my own place where I can retreat, recoup and recover when I need to. As best I know, she feels the same way (yes, we've talked about it.)

My boys (22, 24) both like her very much and her daughter has expressed her feelings of approval towards me to me. I think we've both done good jobs with our kids. All three are fine young people, working hard to make their way in this world and they're all very responsible.

What more could a 57 year old guy like me ask for at this stage in my life? I didn't want the divorce even though I was miserable in my marriage to a very cold woman. In hindsight, I'm not "glad" that it happened, I'm glad however that I found this wonderful woman.

32 posted on 02/26/2020 7:10:52 AM PST by usconservative (When The Ballot Box No Longer Counts, The Ammunition Box Does. (What's In Your Ammo Box?))
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To: C19fan

By the 30-year-old Alaskan’s own admission, however, it hasn’t been going great.

I see the problem. She’s “old”. She took to long to get serious about life. The pool of likely mates, at 30 is faaaarrrr from what it is at 20. It will only get worse.


33 posted on 02/26/2020 7:18:52 AM PST by TalBlack
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To: grey_whiskers
Once a girl has hit the wall and is single, she is suddenly subject to the cruel treatment she has thoughtlessly and gleefully meted out to men since she reached puberty.

Wow. What an interesting comment. Is that your view of women? Really?

34 posted on 02/26/2020 7:18:53 AM PST by ladyjane
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To: C19fan
“People are seen as commodities, as opposed to individuals.”

By jove, I think she's got it!


35 posted on 02/26/2020 7:20:08 AM PST by Buckeye McFrog (Patrick Henry would have been an anti-vaxxer)
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To: ladyjane
I've been married over 30 years, so I can afford to laugh at how feminism has screwed up society.

Biblical morality works. Immorality doesn't.

But women are constructed to bond to men. Let alone the higher risk of STDs, and pregnancy. So sleeping around is a very poor choice, anyway, but even worse for women.

Why don't you older women tell the younger ones to stop slutting around?

Because they won't listen, because in *their* minds,
a) you're just old and therefore jealous of all the sex they're getting
b) in their own minds, they'll NEVER get old...



Until suddenly ,they're 30 and single, and "Where have all the good men gone?"

(Women have a saying to men, women aren't a vending machine you can drop attention into and then sex falls out" which they use to laugh at "good men" when they're young.

But the reverse side is, "Men aren't a vending machine you can put sex into and then commitment falls out." But that's actually only true of the bad boys young women like to sleep with until they hit 30.

And *that's* where the good men have gone. Word has gotten out among men, that women are not as pure as they like to pretend to be.

36 posted on 02/26/2020 7:27:10 AM PST by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change with out notice.)
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To: Vermont Lt

Congratulations. You just cut through layers of accumulated bull droppings and struck the underlying essence of our narcissistic society.

This comes from a lifelong bachelor who has endured a rather astonishing series of rejections, considering that I’m neither deformed, demented, nor destitute. Women today have unrealistic expectations of what they want in a man.

Hypergamy rules ... and a “regular guy” hasn’t got much chance in today’s dating market.


37 posted on 02/26/2020 7:39:48 AM PST by Nothingburger
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To: C19fan

Go Asian young man, Asian.


38 posted on 02/26/2020 7:43:26 AM PST by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: CIB-173RDABN

Yeah, when I read “Tinder” it was lol time.

You can’t fix stupid!


39 posted on 02/26/2020 7:49:12 AM PST by cgbg (The Democratic Party is morphing into the Donner Party)
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To: Nothingburger; ladyjane

That's until the women hit age 30. At that point most of the unattached 6's and below, and some of the rest (depending on their attitude of entitlement) are out of luck.

40 posted on 02/26/2020 7:52:17 AM PST by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change with out notice.)
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