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1 posted on 02/25/2020 10:49:58 AM PST by DouglasKC
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With respect, you are also (partially) wrong. The death rate for a “normal” flu is 0.1% to 0.2%. It is still on the order of 1/10 or 1/20 as lethal as the coronavirus (assuming a 2% mortality rate, and it is probably a bit higher overall), but your figures about the lethality of the flu are understated.

All that said, coronavirus is likely to be less lethal here (barring our medical system getting overloaded) because we have less smoking, less pollution, better nutrition and better medical care than China. Still more than the flu, but less than the worldwide (mainly Chinese) experience so far.


175 posted on 02/25/2020 1:04:15 PM PST by Ancesthntr ("The right to buy weapons is the right to be free." A. E. van Vogt, The Weapons Shops of Isher)
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Not 2 flu deaths per 100,000 flu cases, but per 100,000 population.

Corona is more lethal than flu, but not so dramatically different.

https://www-livescience-com.cdn.ampproject.org/v/s/www.livescience.com/amp/new-coronavirus-compare-with-flu.html?amp_js_v=a3&amp_gsa=1&usqp=mq331AQFKAGwASA%3D#aoh=15826657221364&referrer=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.google.com&amp_tf=From%20%251%24s&ampshare=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.livescience.com%2Fnew-coronavirus-compare-with-flu.html


189 posted on 02/25/2020 1:25:45 PM PST by Chaguito
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What you provided was 2017.

Try using current data 2019-2020 (So far)

190 posted on 02/25/2020 1:27:03 PM PST by Robert DeLong
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223 posted on 02/25/2020 3:32:27 PM PST by sauropod (David Horowitz: “Inside every progressive is a totalitarian screaming to get out.”)
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OMG, Rush Limbaugh is not an epidemiologist! Nothing he says can ever be trusted again!

/S


228 posted on 02/25/2020 4:11:30 PM PST by Hugh the Scot ("Jesus was a fundamentalist".- BipolarBob)
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I can’t read all these posts, but I am guessing that it has been made clear to you by now that deaths per population count and deaths per those infected are completely different.

So far it looks like the coronavirus is about 10x as deadly as the flu on a per-patient basis, but it is to be seen if its particularly vexatious traits for contagion will get it up to and beyond the flu’s number infected.


230 posted on 02/25/2020 4:44:26 PM PST by 9YearLurker
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Ha Rush needs to apologize for his blather the last two days. The death rate is ONLY .1 % of deaths from flu...he just played it. But he was claiming the death rate for the flu is higher than corona.


234 posted on 02/26/2020 9:39:28 AM PST by DouglasKC
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I heard Rush yesterday talking about Corona Virus and almost pushing into conspiracy stuff about economic woes that would hurt the economy to affect Trump re-election.

In fact, he said, “It’s a form of the common cold, or the flu...”. Whoa. I had to take a minute to check myself and see if I’d fallen victim to the hype. Rush is usually right, usually. On this? Uhhhhm...oh, ahh yikes?

Media is certainly “over hyping” the hysterics. That should be expected and recognized. So it CAN’T be as bad or dangerous as they are making it out to be. BUT, China is certainly under reporting and downplaying the issue, so it’s worse than the numbers show. The raw numbers out there suggest it is worse than the flu in underdeveloped nations and not as bad as the flu in the USA (depending on what statistics you pick). It’s said that the virus won’t survive in the warmer air and the problem will solve itself, except maybe move to the southern hemisphere....

I’ve done some reading and have come to my own conclusion that it’s worse than what Rush says, not as bad as the media is hyping (pandemic like 1918), worse than China is saying, but is not quite a bio-weapon intended to kill. I think it is worse than bird and swine flu but not as bad as SARS. I think the world is being more aggressive in stopping the spread far better than they did with SARS. I also believe they will have an inoculation by next fall.

Regardless of the severity of the actual virus, I do believe there will be some economic fall out. I can speak first hand about manufacturing slow down due to a lack of parts coming out of China. I hope it is not that severe and I hope it does not turn the tables on the elections in November. In the long run, if it cripples the Chinese economy to help re-set the global trade equation, along with the new trade deal, it might prove beneficial for the USA economy (assuming my assumptions are close), empirically speaking.

I pray that it is more like Rush is preaching, but am not so confident as I am with other analysis he does.


235 posted on 02/26/2020 10:17:33 AM PST by Tenacious 1
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Agree and unfortunately Trump took too much of his talking points from Rush, minimizing rather than saying here is what we are doing

Hypocritical Pelosi and Schumer are playing politics with the Corona Virus and people are already panicking. Just try to find a common N95 mask. Amazon, Walmart, CVS, Target are all sold out. I was in an Ace Hardware store getting some weed killer and the guy said they just had a rush-a rush on masks, he got 200 boxes in and sold out in an half an hour won’t have more for weeks.

Pence needs to speak daily on Corona virus AND speak about the collaboration the administration is doing with Bio Tech firms to find anti-bodies (best approach IMHO ) with Regeneron,symbol Regn, this is the company that shut down ebola. If the market holds above 25,000 the recovery in markets typically takes about 4-5 months but Dems will try and make this worse by showing how Trump is minimizing it. He took too much of the Rush Limbaugh approach (hey regular flu kills too) and it did the opposite of what it intended as evidenced by market sell off and people panicking more.

Trump or Pence should speak more to specifics as to what he is doing (and they are) including banning flights, the big one is how HHS IS working with Regeneron, Regn on antibodies, with Vaxart Inc. (NASDAQ: VXRT on vaccine, new Sepsis Dr. Marik protocol to shut this virus down which unlike regular flu can mutate and has a much much higher death rate. If he wants bonus points he can talk about how these advances will help reduce regular flu deaths as opposed to being surprised to how how many die from flu. Gawd the deaths from flu will be bad enough but a President Sanders will be bad


236 posted on 02/27/2020 3:33:10 PM PST by TECTopcat (TopCat)
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