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To: JohnBrowdie

The more one actually learns about Thomas Jefferson the less they’ll like him.


7 posted on 02/20/2020 9:50:06 PM PST by youngidiot (The left uses book publishing companies to launder large amounts of cash to other leftist.)
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To: youngidiot

indeed. he arguably committed treason as sec’y state under GW and as VP under adams. that’s just for openers.


8 posted on 02/20/2020 10:03:23 PM PST by JohnBrowdie
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To: youngidiot

Yes...the Jefferson troubles with Hamilton & Washington were disheartening.


9 posted on 02/20/2020 10:05:37 PM PST by LongWayHome
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To: youngidiot

That is true of most people that one initially thinks of in a very positive way. No man is a hero to his valet.


17 posted on 02/20/2020 10:38:55 PM PST by Hieronymus ("I shall drink--to the Pope, if you please,-still, to Conscience first, and to the Pope afterwards.")
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To: youngidiot

He may ultimately have led to the downfall of the Republic that he helped to declare, but he had some good qualities.

They were thieves and thugs and smiters; they were better men than you!

(From Chesterton’s The Appeal of the Peers)
https://www.poetrynook.com/poem/appeal-peers


18 posted on 02/20/2020 10:42:45 PM PST by Hieronymus ("I shall drink--to the Pope, if you please,-still, to Conscience first, and to the Pope afterwards.")
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To: youngidiot; JohnBrowdie; LongWayHome; Jolla; Dalberg-Acton

>>youngidiot wrote: “The more one actually learns about Thomas Jefferson the less they’ll like him.”

The more I learn about Jefferson, the less I like Hamilton and Marshall. Both did permanent damage to our nation with their “implied powers” treachery against the Constitution.

Mr. Kalamata


20 posted on 02/20/2020 10:48:55 PM PST by Kalamata (BIBLE RESEARCH TOOLS: http://bibleresearchtools.com/)
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To: youngidiot
The more one actually learns about Thomas Jefferson the less they’ll like him.

Learn this!

I consider the foundation of the Constitution as laid on this ground: That "all powers not delegated to the United States, by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States or to the people..." To take a single step beyond the boundaries thus specially drawn around the powers of Congress is to take possession of a boundless field of power, no longer susceptible of any definition.

...

To lay taxes to provide for the general welfare of the United States, that is to say, "to lay taxes for the purpose of providing for the general welfare." For the laying of taxes is the power, and the general welfare the purpose for which the power is to be exercised. They are not to lay taxes ad libitum for any purpose they please but only to pay the debts or provide for the welfare of the Union. In like manner, they are not to do anything they please to provide for the general welfare but only to lay taxes for that purpose. To consider the latter phrase, not as describing the purpose of the first, but as giving a distinct and independent power to do any act they please, which might be for the good of the Union, would render all the preceding and subsequent enumerations of power completely useless.

It would reduce the whole instrument to a single phrase, that of instituting a Congress with power to do whatever would be for the good of the United States; and, as they would be the sole judges of the good or evil, it would be also a power to do whatever evil they please.

... Thomas Jefferson to George Washington letter, dated Feb 15, 1791

Mr. Jefferson was almost certainly the most intellectual of the Founding Fathers. I challenge anyone to find some other document written by someone else that rivals this or the Declaration of Independence or the Kentucky Resolutions of 1798 in terms of brilliance and clarity.

ML/NJ

53 posted on 02/21/2020 7:06:00 AM PST by ml/nj
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