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There have been stories about 2019-nCoV being created and accidently released from the Level IV facility in Wuhan from Day 1. Maybe China realizes the game is up as researchers outside China pick apart the virus so they allowed this paper to be publishes.
1 posted on 02/17/2020 5:21:13 AM PST by C19fan
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2 posted on 02/17/2020 5:22:56 AM PST by JonPreston
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I hope this is just rumor mongering and there is no basis for it, because we know how to treat bioligical warfare in our defense doctrine. It won’t be pretty.


5 posted on 02/17/2020 5:33:50 AM PST by AndyJackson
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Chinese scientists believe the deadly coronavirus may have started life in a research facility just 300 yards from the Wuhan fish market. A new bombshell paper from the Beijing-sponsored South China University of Technology says that the Wuhan Center for Disease Control (WHCDC) could have spawned the contagion in Hubei province. ‘The possible origins of 2019-nCoV coronavirus,’ penned by scholars Botao Xiao and Lei Xiao claims the WHCDC kept disease-ridden animals in laboratories, including 605 bats. It also mentions that bats - which are linked to coronavirus - once attacked a researcher and ‘blood of bat was on his skin.’

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The headline is a bit misleading compared to the excerpt.

The origin would still be diseased animals, even if the virus did come from a “government laboratory.”

This is another attempt to scare people.


6 posted on 02/17/2020 5:36:07 AM PST by Moonman62 (Charity comes from wealth.)
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Chinese scientists believe the deadly coronavirus may have started life in a research facility just 300 yards from the Wuhan fish market.

First, I thought the Level IV biohazard lab was some 20 miles north of Wuhan. Would this have been a less secure facility?

And second, it might explain why the Chinese have been so touchy about granting full access to WHO and CDC researchers.

7 posted on 02/17/2020 5:38:02 AM PST by Pearls Before Swine
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After we have been told this was all conspiracy theory stuff...

More reasons to doubt the Chinese government pronouncements on anything.


8 posted on 02/17/2020 5:40:11 AM PST by marktwain (President Trump and his supporters are the Resistance. His opponents are the Reactionaries.)
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Was a Chinese state mandated Dec 1 2019 vaccine the precondition and catalyst leading to the Coronavirus deaths in China, and that exposure without having had the vaccine is not so serious?

Consider this perspective: CLEAR EVIDENCE it is NOT a Bioweapon. So What's All This About ACE2 and nCoV-2019 (COVID-2019)?

9 posted on 02/17/2020 5:51:43 AM PST by disclaimer
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“wet fish market”

Isn’t that like stating that water is wet? /s


10 posted on 02/17/2020 5:54:55 AM PST by faucetman (Just the facts, ma'am, Just the facts)
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“Did coronavirus originate in Chinese government laboratory?

Of course it did!


11 posted on 02/17/2020 5:56:14 AM PST by faucetman (Just the facts, ma'am, Just the facts)
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Mmmmmmmmmmmm, Bat Soup...


20 posted on 02/17/2020 6:22:23 AM PST by Carriage Hill (A society grows great when old men plant trees, in whose shade they know they will never sit.)
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To: C19fan; neverdem; ProtectOurFreedom; Mother Abigail; EBH; vetvetdoug; Smokin' Joe; Global2010; ...
Bring Out Your Dead

Post to me or FReep mail to be on/off the Bring Out Your Dead ping list.

The purpose of the “Bring Out Your Dead” ping list (formerly the “Ebola” ping list) is very early warning of emerging pandemics, as such it has a high false positive rate.

So far the false positive rate is 100%.

At some point we may well have a high mortality pandemic, and likely as not the “Bring Out Your Dead” threads will miss the beginning entirely.

*sigh* Such is life, and death...

If a quarantine saves just one child's life, it's worth it.

22 posted on 02/17/2020 6:25:51 AM PST by null and void (By the pricking of my lungs, Something wicked this way comes ...)
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I predict we’ll find out right after the FIB gets to the bottom of the LV high rise shootings.


23 posted on 02/17/2020 6:28:20 AM PST by Paladin2
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RE: Chinese scientists believe the deadly coronavirus may have started life in a research facility just 300 yards from the Wuhan fish market.

When they mention “Chinese Scientists” They might as well replace these words with “Anonymous Sources”.

We can’t interview them, we don’t know their names, we don’t know whether or not they are really scientist or conspiracy theorists.

How do we know that this story is even true? How different is this from the “anonymous sources” of CNN,WaPo and NY Times?


27 posted on 02/17/2020 6:49:52 AM PST by SeekAndFind (look at Michigan, it will)
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Oh that couldn’t possibly be what happened. (S)


29 posted on 02/17/2020 6:54:23 AM PST by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped)
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Odd, the Internet says C19fan does not exist anymore.

/just kidding


39 posted on 02/17/2020 7:15:23 AM PST by McGruff
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http://www.tinyurl.com/cvirusmap


44 posted on 02/17/2020 8:07:49 AM PST by GOPJ ( http://www.tinyurl.com/cvirusmap https://www.cdc.gov/flu/weekly/usmap.htm)
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Hanlon's razor: "Never attribute to malice that which can be adequately explained by stupidity."

Deliberate conspiracy is still unlikely. Incompetence, accident, and attempts to cover it starting to look more realistic.

48 posted on 02/17/2020 8:53:21 AM PST by Widget Jr
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Working on a way to eliminate a quarter billion people without the infrastructure damage a war would cause.


49 posted on 02/17/2020 9:35:15 AM PST by JimRed ( TERM LIMITS, NOW! Build the Wall Faster! TRUTH is the new HATE SPEECH.)
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For those interested in the Scientific Paper,

Here is the PDF for the study:

https://web.archive.org/web/20200214144447/https://www.researchgate.net/publication/339070128_The_possible_origins_of_2019-nCoV_coronavirus

TITLE: THE POSSIBLE ORIGIN OF THE 2019-nCov CORONAVIRUS

by BoTao Xiao and Lei Xiao

ABSTRACT:

The 2019-nCoV has caused an epidemic of 28,060 laboratory-confirmed infections in human including 564 deaths in China by February 6, 2020. Two descriptions of the virus published on Nature this week indicated that the genome sequences from patients were almost identical to the Bat CoV ZC45 coronavirus. It was critical to study where the pathogen came from and how it passed onto human. An article published on The Lancet reported that 27 of 41 infected patients were found to have contact with the Huanan Seafood Market in Wuhan.

We noted two laboratories conducting research on bat coronavirus in Wuhan, one of which was only 280 meters from the seafood market. We briefly examined the histories of the laboratories and proposed that the coronavirus probably originated from a laboratory. Our proposal provided an alternative origin of the coronavirus in addition to natural recombination and intermediate host.


58 posted on 02/17/2020 5:10:04 PM PST by SeekAndFind (look at Michigan, it will)
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