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2/16/2020

Posted on 02/16/2020 2:39:22 PM PST by Vermont Lt

Continuation of previous thread.


TOPICS: Chit/Chat; Health/Medicine; Weird Stuff
KEYWORDS: 2weeks2weeks; billionsinfected; chinavirus; coronavirus; covid19; cvlivethread; globaldoom; livethread; millionsdead
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To: RaceBannon

Looks like an interesting novel. Let me know when it’s published and under what title.


141 posted on 02/17/2020 4:46:56 AM PST by airborne (I don't always scream at the TV but when I do it's hockey season!)
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To: airborne

I know, reads too much like fiction and people are believing it.

here is something sort of new
https://www.businessinsider.com/wuhan-coronavirus-symptoms-24-days-after-infection-2020-2


142 posted on 02/17/2020 4:50:47 AM PST by RaceBannon (Rom 5:8 But God commendeth his love toward us, in that, while we were yet sinners, Christ died for)
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To: blueplum
TAIPEI (Taiwan News) — It’s possible to get infected by the novel coronavirus (COVID-19) a second time, according to doctors on the frontline in China’s city of Wuhan, leading to death from heart failure in some cases. The claim is made by doctors working in the Hubei Province capital that is at the center of the epidemic, which has to date infected 64,201 people and killed 1,487. One of the doctors reached out to a relative living in the United Kingdom, who then informed Taiwan News. Both the relative and doctors asked to remain anonymous, out of consideration they might face retribution from the Chinese authorities. The doctor, Li Wenliang (李文亮), who first raised warnings about the Wuhan virus, was rebuked by the authorities before succumbing to the devastating disease himself earlier this month. According to the message forwarded to Taiwan News, “It’s highly possible to get infected a second time. A few people recovered from the first time by their own immune system, but the meds they use are damaging their heart tissue, and when they get it the second time, the antibody doesn’t help but makes it worse, and they die a sudden death from heart failure.” https://www.taiwannews.com.tw/en/news/3876197
143 posted on 02/17/2020 4:51:29 AM PST by LilFarmer
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To: LilFarmer

First of all, new coronary pneumonia is not the same as SARS or avian influenza. In many cases, SARS is very severe when the patient comes up. However, the early onset of new crown patients is not very dangerous, but in the later period, there will be an acceleration, and the patient will soon enter a state of multiple organ failure, which will be a storm of inflammation. Once in this state, it is difficult for our treatment to pull it back. This is completely different from the past. Many patients do not die from the lungs. Because the hospital has ECMO (Extracorporeal Cardiopulmonary Support), a ventilator, and various treatment strategies, which can replace the patient’s lung function. But many patients die of multiple organ failure outside the lungs, which is very different from the past.

Why is there such a sudden acceleration?

Zhong Ming said that the patient’s body may have initiated an inflammatory storm, which caused the failure of various organs. What they observed is that many patients have elevated markers of myocardial damage, so the virus is likely to damage the heart muscle itself, similar to myocarditis, and may damage many other organs.

https://flutrackers.com/forum/forum/the-pandemic-discussion-forum/827077-discussion-ncov-2019-potential-myocarditis-and-sudden-falls?p=828289#post828289


144 posted on 02/17/2020 4:55:01 AM PST by LilFarmer
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To: LilFarmer

China sends over 30,000 medics to aid in battle against COVID-19 in Wuhan

Xinhua| 2020-02-17 15:22:06
BEIJING, Feb. 17 (Xinhua) — China has dispatched more than 30,000 medical staff, including elite medical groups, to assist in the fight against the novel coronavirus disease (COVID-19) outbreak in the epicenter Wuhan, Guo Yanhong, an official with the National Health Commission, said Monday.

China has sent about 11,000 intensive care specialists into the coronavirus-hit Wuhan, making up to approximately 10 percent of the country’s total number of intensive care medics, Guo said at a press conference in Beijing

http://www.xinhuanet.com/english/2020-02/17/c_138791841.htm


145 posted on 02/17/2020 5:03:21 AM PST by LilFarmer
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To: LilFarmer

Japan confirms 99 more cases of new virus on cruise ship
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February 17, 2020 at 2:58 am

TOKYO (AP) — Japanese officials have confirmed 99 more people infected by the new virus aboard the quarantined cruise ship Diamond Princess, bringing the total to 454, the Health Ministry said Monday .

The ministry has been carrying out tests on passengers and crew on the ship, docked in Yokohama, a port city near Tokyo.

Japan confirms 99 more cases of new virus on cruise ship
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February 17, 2020 at 2:58 am

TOKYO (AP) — Japanese officials have confirmed 99 more people infected by the new virus aboard the quarantined cruise ship Diamond Princess, bringing the total to 454, the Health Ministry said Monday .

The ministry has been carrying out tests on passengers and crew on the ship, docked in Yokohama, a port city near Tokyo...


146 posted on 02/17/2020 5:04:21 AM PST by LilFarmer
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To: LilFarmer

So perhaps some of those who “recover” will have lasting heart damage as something of a ticking time bomb.


147 posted on 02/17/2020 5:04:44 AM PST by 9YearLurker
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To: LilFarmer

Link for ^^^
https://mynorthwest.com/1722423/japan-confirms-99-more-cases-of-new-virus-on-cruise-ship/


148 posted on 02/17/2020 5:06:21 AM PST by LilFarmer
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To: 9YearLurker

Yes, I think it’s like a relapse with a a cytokine storm type of situation. I think this is why they wait so long to consider a patient recovered.


149 posted on 02/17/2020 5:08:13 AM PST by LilFarmer
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To: LilFarmer

THERE was panic among shoppers in Cowley yesterday evening as paramedics dressed in protective suits and facemasks were spotted outside a supermarket.

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Shopper John Clayton, who reported the incident, said he approached medical staff to inquire if the incident was connected with the deadly virus, however, they refused to answer.

Halfords employee Connor McDermott who was working at the store yesterday as medics turned up at about 4.30pm, said he overheard customers who said that a person had died in the incident.

https://www.oxfordmail.co.uk/news/18239292.coronavirus-medics-protective-suits-spotted-cowley/


150 posted on 02/17/2020 5:11:43 AM PST by LilFarmer
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To: Jane Long
"Do you work outside of the home?

I'm retired... Have been for 13 years.. :)

"Have you stocked up on a month or two worth of food/meds/neccesities?"

Yeppers, We usually vacuum pack lots of carbs and keep them in the basement.. Beans, rice, flour and lots of caned fish and spam.. Lots of frozen veggies in the freezer out in the barn..

"Are you able to stay in your home, and not be around large crowds?"

We use Wal-mart pharmacy.. That's the scary part.. I can't make her wear a mask... "Vanity of vanity, all is vanity... :)

151 posted on 02/17/2020 5:30:08 AM PST by unread (A REPUBLIC..! if you can keep it....)
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To: BenLurkin
The most recent assessment is that the Wuhan Flu is much more contagious than ordinary flu viruses but is not quite as deadly.

The novel coronavirus (2019-nCoV) is not an influenza virus. There are many different types of viruses that cause illness in humans and in animals and some are zoonotic meaning they can jump from animals to humans.

As someone here, I can’t recall who, tried to explain:

Think of viruses as car brands. You have Fords and Chevys and Toyotas, etc. Many different and distinct car brands and many different and distinct types of viruses.

So think of influenza as being a “Ford brand” and coronaviruses as being a “Chevy brand”.

But within each car brand, there are many different models.

With Ford, you have many different models ranging from the Fiesta to the Mustang. There are also different models and options within those models (think of those as mutations).

Within the influenza virus there are many different strains – A, B, C and D and within those various subtypes, just for example in type A alone:

H1N1 caused "Spanish flu" in 1918 and "Swine flu" in 2009.
H2N2 caused "Asian Flu".
H3N2 caused "Hong Kong Flu"

The coronavirus is a virus just as a Ford and a Chevy are all car brands, but belong to a different family of viruses than influenza.

Some coronaviruses are endemic and are responsible for a percentage of seasonal “common colds”, miserable to get but not particularly dangerous.

What is concerning about this particular coronavirus is that it is novel (not previous seen infecting humans) and with any novel virus we don’t exactly know how it is spread and the eventual CFR or if it will eventually burn out, if it is seasonal and likely to come back or if it will mutate into a less lethal form as the 1918-19 “Spanish Flu” did.

152 posted on 02/17/2020 5:36:43 AM PST by MD Expat in PA (No. I am not a doctor nor have I ever played one on TV. The MD in my screen name stands for Maryland)
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To: unread

Pretty low odds of exposure, I’d think ;-)


153 posted on 02/17/2020 5:36:46 AM PST by Jane Long (Praise God, from whom ALL blessings flow.cuase)
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To: blueplum

1,716 frontline Chinese medics infected with Covid-19 in battle against coronavirus

87.5 in Hubei and 1,102 in Wuhan
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I-nDj-MRAB4

Coronavirus: China bans citizens from leaving their homes | DW News
Xiaogan in Hubay province is using tight new restrictions. Residents there are not being permitted to leave their homes or to use their private vehicles. (no groceries, nothing)

“for the last 10 days..reporters, editors, digital producers, video journalists and production staff are all working from home.” (hong kong)

Relative Import Risk: measure of how a chosen number of infected individuals distribute around the globe when they travel. Top three countries: Thailand, Japan, South Korea. Top three airports: Hong Kong, Seoul, Taipai - very strong traffic coupling to major cities in China
SCMP
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WVxuojeOwg0

also news about Diamond Princess:
(Americans take care of their people said one passenger) Canada, Hong Kong, Australia, Italy and Taiwan also taking their passengers.
Crew members say they are not under quarantine and are not treated ‘properly’.
1st evacuation of Germans released after 2wk quarantine

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zfVbtAI58os

First and second planes from japan land at Travis AFB -
99 new cases on cruise ship
questions for japan over keeping ppl on the ship
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lJx5Tm8Jdy8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lJx5Tm8Jdy8


154 posted on 02/17/2020 5:39:05 AM PST by blueplum ( ("...this moment is your moment: it belongs to you... " President Donald J. Trump, Jan 20, 2017))
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To: LilFarmer

World Health Organization holds secretive talks with tech giants Google, Facebook and Amazon to tackle the spread of misinformation on coronavirus.

Twitter, Youtube and Saleforce also met with the World Health Organization
The talks with the health body were held at the Facebook Menlo Park campus
The spread of misinformation on social media was described as an ‘infodemic’
Companies agreed to meet regularly and host a coronavirus information line

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-8012237/World-Health-Organisation-holds-secretive-talks-tech-giants-coronavirus-misinformation.html


155 posted on 02/17/2020 5:39:17 AM PST by LilFarmer
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To: LilFarmer

14 of the returning Americans from the Princess cruise ship are infected.

They were still allowed to fly home on the same airplane, as others.

All returning will be quarantined.


156 posted on 02/17/2020 5:41:19 AM PST by Jane Long (Praise God, from whom ALL blessings flow.cuase)
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To: LilFarmer

These mechanisms for stopping disinformation have to be in place to stop real information when the time comes.


157 posted on 02/17/2020 5:44:00 AM PST by Bitman
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To: LilFarmer

Rachel Cheung
@rachel_cheung1
A 24-year-old, who travelled from Wuhan to Guangzhou last month, started coughing six days after her 15-day quarantine ended and tested positive for #coronavirus yesterday - yet another case where patients developed symptoms after 14-day incubation period

https://hk.news.appledaily.com/china/20200217/VOSHBXHUD4READDDWVAFSTYMVE/?utm_campaign=hkad_social_hk.nextmedia&utm_medium=social&utm_source=facebook&utm_content=link_post


158 posted on 02/17/2020 5:45:50 AM PST by LilFarmer
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To: LilFarmer

More censorship??


159 posted on 02/17/2020 5:46:06 AM PST by Jane Long (Praise God, from whom ALL blessings flow.cuase)
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To: LilFarmer
What’s up with the masks here?

Vardhan interacts with Wuhan evacuees at ITBP Chhawla camp Agency News Feb 17, 2020, 6:43 PM

New Delhi, Feb 17 : Health Minister Harsh Vardhan on Monday interacted with several Indian nationals who had been quarantined at ITBP Chhawla Camp for over a fortnight and have tested negative for the deadly Coronavirus disease.

https://www.pennews.net/national/2020/02/17/vardhan-interacts-with-wuhan-evacuees-at-itbp-chhawla-camp


160 posted on 02/17/2020 5:52:39 AM PST by LilFarmer
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