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Essentially what we are seeing is in the coming weeks as supply dwindles, China has in effect conquered the world economically without a single shot being fired. Why were we, the USA, so stupid to allow our manufacturing to be shipped overseas. Awww the almighty dollar.


164 posted on 02/15/2020 6:28:15 PM PST by TermLimits4All (A coup on the people's President, will result in bloodshed. Be prepared always.)
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To: TermLimits4All

“Essentially what we are seeing is in the coming weeks as supply dwindles, China has in effect conquered the world economically without a single shot being fired.”

We’ll see where this goes...at the very least, MILLIONS of Americans (with the exception of a few here) are finally starting to understand just what we’ve allowed China to become. This may have a silver lining...if we get through it, that is.


176 posted on 02/15/2020 6:41:19 PM PST by BobL (I eat at McDonald's and shop at Walmart - I just don't tell anyone.)
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To: TermLimits4All
Why were we, the USA, so stupid to allow our manufacturing to be shipped overseas. Awww the almighty dollar.

It wasn't always "the almighty dollar", although that is often the reason.

But... Consider certain cold-forged steel parts, for example. Nobody in the US ever bothered to go into the biz of manufacturing them. The Taiwanese were aggressive, and did. It turned out they often were not really cheaper (esp. in the beginning) but they worked better and looked better - our customers DEMANDED them. Later, production went to China, and often was more problematic, but we were stuck with it.

Magnets? Similar story, but more direct. While several of the Chinese suppliers were unreliable, QC-wise, a couple simply made better parts than any of the US suppliers (except one that was way high priced and bit the dust early on.) Our customers were mostly mid-high end, and demanded good stuff. End of that story.

I'm not sure what the answers are. More equitable trade deals, and in particular not giving "3rd world" nations ridiculous advantages that never go away is one. Not hamstringing our own industries is another - IMO that might be the biggest factor of all. But, OTOH, one would have to be crazy to permit Chinese type pollution.

Perhaps more industries and products should be designated as critical industries / products and further propped up, but, how much more gov't interference and control in the marketplace do we want? When you get it in some ways, you usually get it in a lot more ways.

This is not the thread to debate all that, I suppose - I'm just pointing out that some of the issues involved are NOT easy.

230 posted on 02/15/2020 8:21:24 PM PST by Paul R. (The Lib / Socialist goal: Total control of nothing left wort h controlling.)
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To: TermLimits4All
Not the almighty dollar.

Closet treason.

The autofellatory pig-fornicators in the GOP-e and the Bernie bots are about to discover two irrecovable lessons, too late.

The GOP-e are about to discover the joys of being hanged from lamposts and/or lynched, by people who don't even have proper Masters' Degrees from Georgetown.

The Bernie Bots are going to discover that, yes, political power DOES grow out of the barrel of a gun, just like their demonic Marxist masters whispered to them in the dark.

But it will Trump's guns.

Does anyone think a single country on Earth will trust China with ANYTHING ever again, no matter how large the bribe?

257 posted on 02/15/2020 9:02:42 PM PST by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change with out notice.)
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