7 day ban for discussing sodomy on Facebook

Facebook Community of Standards ^

[Sam Gamgee]

I will admit I like to go to Christian Post and some news sites via Facebook and I connect to friends and family there. I have to question their claim in Community of Standards.

"The goal of our Community Standards has always been to create a place for expression and give people a voice. This has not and will not change. Building community and bringing the world closer together depends on people’s ability to share diverse views, experiences, ideas and information. "

What a joke. Every time I discuss sodomy I end up suspended. I know the obvious response is to not discuss sodomy. But it that really what Facebook has gone to? First time I used the term tranny and got a 3 day ban. This time I said sodomites are notorious child molesters. Within a minute I got a 7 day ban. Can you not discuss sodomy on a Christian group?

The other thing is facebook encourages narcs. How petty and thin skinned do you have to be to go running to facebook to fight your battles for you? Makes me now get angry at my kids when they narc on each other.

They have a whole section that do not tolerate death threats and will sometimes call the police. THAT I know to be a bald face lie. A former muslim runs a group on facebook and he forwards his death threats to Facebook and they laughingly tell him they don't violate standards.

Zucker is such a lying sack of shite.

[Sam Gamgee]

No just horrified by how accepted it has become. Specifically the topic was around church pastors approving of same sex marriage

[Elsie]

Do you get a kick out of discussing sodomy?

Someone's gonna get kicked!!

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A BIBLICAL Message about homosexuality

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Genesis 13:13

Now the men of Sodom were wicked and were sinning greatly against the LORD.

Genesis 18:20-21
20. Then the LORD said, "The outcry against Sodom and Gomorrah is so great and their sin so grievous
21. that I will go down and see if what they have done is as bad as the outcry that has reached me. If not, I will know."

Genesis 19:4-7
4. Before they had gone to bed, all the men from every part of the city of Sodom--both young and old--surrounded the house.
5. They called to Lot, "Where are the men who came to you tonight? Bring them out to us so that we can have sex with them."
6. Lot went outside to meet them and shut the door behind him
7. and said, "No, my friends. Don't do this wicked thing.

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Leviticus niv

18:22 Do not have sexual relations with a man as one does with a woman; that is detestable.

20:13 If a man has sexual relations with a man as one does with a woman, both of them have done what is detestable. They are to be put to death; their blood will be on their own heads.

 

 

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Psalms 12:8 The wicked freely strut about when what is vile is honored among men.

Isaiah 3:9 The look on their faces testifies against them;

they parade their sin like Sodom; they do not hide it.

Woe to them! They have brought disaster upon themselves.

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2 Peter 2:13b Their idea of pleasure is to carouse in broad daylight.

They are blots and blemishes, reveling in their pleasures while they feast with you.

Ezekiel 16:49-50
49. "`Now this was the sin of your sister Sodom: She and her daughters were arrogant, overfed and unconcerned; they did not help the poor and needy.
50. They were haughty and did detestable things before me. Therefore I did away with them as you have seen.

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Romans 1     New American Bible (Revised Edition) (NABRE)

 

 18 The wrath of God is indeed being revealed from heaven against every impiety and wickedness of those who suppress the truth by their wickedness. 19 For what can be known about God is evident to them, because God made it evident to them. 20 Ever since the creation of the world, his invisible attributes of eternal power and divinity have been able to be understood and perceived in what he has made. As a result, they have no excuse; 21 for although they knew God they did not accord him glory as God or give him thanks. Instead, they became vain in their reasoning, and their senseless minds were darkened. 22 While claiming to be wise, they became fools 23 and exchanged the glory of the immortal God for the likeness of an image of mortal man or of birds or of four-legged animals or of snakes.

 

24 Therefore, God handed them over to impurity through the lusts of their hearts for the mutual degradation of their bodies. 25 They exchanged the truth of God for a lie and revered and worshiped the creature rather than the creator, who is blessed forever. Amen. 26 Therefore, God handed them over to degrading passions. Their females exchanged natural relations for unnatural, 27 and the males likewise gave up natural relations with females and burned with lust for one another. Males did shameful things with males and thus received in their own persons the due penalty for their perversity. 28 And since they did not see fit to acknowledge God, God handed them over to their undiscerning mind to do what is improper. 29 They are filled with every form of wickedness, evil, greed, and malice; full of envy, murder, rivalry, treachery, and spite. 

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2 Peter 2

1. But there were also false prophets among the people, just as there will be false teachers among you. They will secretly introduce destructive heresies, even denying the sovereign Lord who bought them--bringing swift destruction on themselves.
2. Many will follow their shameful ways and will bring the way of truth into disrepute.
3. In their greed these teachers will exploit you with stories they have made up. Their condemnation has long been hanging over them, and their destruction has not been sleeping.
4. For if God did not spare angels when they sinned, but sent them to hell, putting them into gloomy dungeons to be held for judgment;
5. if he did not spare the ancient world when he brought the flood on its ungodly people, but protected Noah, a preacher of righteousness, and seven others;
6. if he condemned the cities of Sodom and Gomorrah by burning them to ashes, and made them an example of what is going to happen to the ungodly;
7. and if he rescued Lot, a righteous man, who was distressed by the filthy lives of lawless men
8. (for that righteous man, living among them day after day, was tormented in his righteous soul by the lawless deeds he saw and heard)--
9. if this is so, then the Lord knows how to rescue godly men from trials and to hold the unrighteous for the day of judgment, while continuing their punishment.
10. This is especially true of those who follow the corrupt desire of the sinful nature and despise authority. Bold and arrogant, these men are not afraid to slander celestial beings;
11. yet even angels, although they are stronger and more powerful, do not bring slanderous accusations against such beings in the presence of the Lord.
12. But these men blaspheme in matters they do not understand. They are like brute beasts, creatures of instinct, born only to be caught and destroyed, and like beasts they too will perish.
13. They will be paid back with harm for the harm they have done. Their idea of pleasure is to carouse in broad daylight. They are blots and blemishes, reveling in their pleasures while they feast with you.

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But there IS hope!!!

1 Corinthians 6:9-11

9. Do you not know that the wicked will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived:
Neither the sexually immoral nor idolaters nor adulterers nor male prostitutes nor homosexual offenders
10. nor thieves nor the greedy nor drunkards nor slanderers nor swindlers will inherit the kingdom of God.
11. And that is what some of you were. But you were washed, you were sanctified, you were justified in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ and by the Spirit of our God.

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If you could NOT change, you would be in most pitiful shape...

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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The Health Risks of gay sex.

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We are living in a Genesis 19:9 world...

 

"Get out of our way,” they replied.
“This fellow came here as a foreigner, and now he wants to play the judge!
We’ll treat you worse than them.”
They kept bringing pressure on Lot and moved forward to break down the door.

 

 

 

Psalms 12:8 The wicked freely strut about when what is vile is honored among men.

Isaiah 3:9 The look on their faces testifies against them;

they parade their sin like Sodom; they do not hide it.

Woe to them! They have brought disaster upon themselves.

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2 Peter 2:13b Their idea of pleasure is to carouse in broad daylight.

They are blots and blemishes, reveling in their pleasures while they feast with you.

Ezekiel 16:49-50
49. "`Now this was the sin of your sister Sodom: She and her daughters were arrogant, overfed and unconcerned; they did not help the poor and needy.
50. They were haughty and did detestable things before me. Therefore I did away with them as you have seen.

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Romans 1     New American Bible (Revised Edition) (NABRE)

 

 18 The wrath of God is indeed being revealed from heaven against every impiety and wickedness of those who suppress the truth by their wickedness. 19 For what can be known about God is evident to them, because God made it evident to them. 20 Ever since the creation of the world, his invisible attributes of eternal power and divinity have been able to be understood and perceived in what he has made. As a result, they have no excuse; 21 for although they knew God they did not accord him glory as God or give him thanks. Instead, they became vain in their reasoning, and their senseless minds were darkened. 22 While claiming to be wise, they became fools 23 and exchanged the glory of the immortal God for the likeness of an image of mortal man or of birds or of four-legged animals or of snakes.

 

24 Therefore, God handed them over to impurity through the lusts of their hearts for the mutual degradation of their bodies. 25 They exchanged the truth of God for a lie and revered and worshiped the creature rather than the creator, who is blessed forever. Amen. 26 Therefore, God handed them over to degrading passions. Their females exchanged natural relations for unnatural, 27 and the males likewise gave up natural relations with females and burned with lust for one another. Males did shameful things with males and thus received in their own persons the due penalty for their perversity. 28 And since they did not see fit to acknowledge God, God handed them over to their undiscerning mind to do what is improper. 29 They are filled with every form of wickedness, evil, greed, and malice; full of envy, murder, rivalry, treachery, and spite. 

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2 Peter 2

1. But there were also false prophets among the people, just as there will be false teachers among you. They will secretly introduce destructive heresies, even denying the sovereign Lord who bought them--bringing swift destruction on themselves.
2. Many will follow their shameful ways and will bring the way of truth into disrepute.
3. In their greed these teachers will exploit you with stories they have made up. Their condemnation has long been hanging over them, and their destruction has not been sleeping.
4. For if God did not spare angels when they sinned, but sent them to hell, putting them into gloomy dungeons to be held for judgment;
5. if he did not spare the ancient world when he brought the flood on its ungodly people, but protected Noah, a preacher of righteousness, and seven others;
6. if he condemned the cities of Sodom and Gomorrah by burning them to ashes, and made them an example of what is going to happen to the ungodly;
7. and if he rescued Lot, a righteous man, who was distressed by the filthy lives of lawless men
8. (for that righteous man, living among them day after day, was tormented in his righteous soul by the lawless deeds he saw and heard)--
9. if this is so, then the Lord knows how to rescue godly men from trials and to hold the unrighteous for the day of judgment, while continuing their punishment.
10. This is especially true of those who follow the corrupt desire of the sinful nature and despise authority. Bold and arrogant, these men are not afraid to slander celestial beings;
11. yet even angels, although they are stronger and more powerful, do not bring slanderous accusations against such beings in the presence of the Lord.
12. But these men blaspheme in matters they do not understand. They are like brute beasts, creatures of instinct, born only to be caught and destroyed, and like beasts they too will perish.
13. They will be paid back with harm for the harm they have done. Their idea of pleasure is to carouse in broad daylight. They are blots and blemishes, reveling in their pleasures while they feast with you.

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But there IS hope!!!

1 Corinthians 6:9-11

9. Do you not know that the wicked will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived:
Neither the sexually immoral nor idolaters nor adulterers nor male prostitutes nor homosexual offenders
10. nor thieves nor the greedy nor drunkards nor slanderers nor swindlers will inherit the kingdom of God.
11. And that is what some of you were. But you were washed, you were sanctified, you were justified in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ and by the Spirit of our God.

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If you could NOT change, you would be in most pitiful shape...

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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The Health Risks of gay sex.

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[AbolishCSEU]

i post pookies toons every day on FB bwa ha ha
i know people are seeing at least 75% of it if i had to guess because I’ve established quite a troupe of followers

[DiogenesLamp]

How would you quantify and limit the "significant carrier of public speech?" Just claiming a group is a club or is too small does not seem to be a practical exemption to an effort to stop censorship on social media platforms.

I've had some experience with coming up with verbiage satisfactory to a group of people, and I know crafting a law to accomplish what you wish with a minimum of side effects is not easy.

My goal in discussing the idea is to get people to think about the need for such a thing, and I have not tried to go into a lot of detail about how such a law can be constructed because I know from past experience that people will want to have input on it. I think a proper law would have to evolve from some basic ideas as people consider it and point out potential problems.

But my method for arguing on behalf of such a law uses the arbitrary number of one million users to meet the threshold of "significance."

Maybe this isn't best, and someone has a better idea for a threshold, but a million at least gives us a starting point for further discussion of the topic.

I think sites like Free Republic likely do not have a million users, while sites which are clearly becoming a threat to freedom of speech are all over a million, if not over a billion.

A system that carries public speech traffic for a billion people world wide represents a serious threat to freedom of speech if it engages in censorship, as do Facebook, Google, Twitter, and so forth.

Enforcing Free Speech rights on fb and twtr seems like another dangerous slope for us with the chance of equal time provisions and the like

More dangerous than the existing situation? I consider what we have now to be extremely dangerous in the long run. I'm not coming up with any ideas on how preventing people from censoring speech will work out worse than letting them do it.

If it's acceptable for some speech to be censored, why don't we just let the government do it?

[Elsie]

I think a proper law would have to evolve from some basic ideas as people consider it and point out potential problems.

Kinda like the frog in the pot thingy?

Or maybe the Two steps forward; one back" mantra?

[higgmeister]

Why do you feel the need to post this boldface gay claptrap? You are preaching to the choir and I don't even want to be reminded of this so blatantly. At least ditch the graphics.

The whole topic of the thread is the stigma of that word and you have to go rub this stuff in everyone's face.

[higgmeister]

I accept most of what you have stated.

If it's acceptable for some speech to be censored, why don't we just let the government do it?

I adhere to the strictly minimalist view of government. I will never trust our government regarding most things at any level. Granted, the propaganda in our public educational systems is worse than any public speech constraints you are calling for but I still don't want government controlled censorship. There has to be a better way. Legal suits for civil rights infringements? RICO charges against Facebook and the like? Other legislative constraints without a government moderator?

[Elsie]

... you have to go rub this stuff in everyone's face.

I'm sorry; but I do.

We are being BOMBARDED with QUEER stuff from all corners of media 24/7 and I; for one; intend to SHOW THE WORLD exactly what the Scriptures have to say about it.

[Elsie]

...I still don't want government controlled censorship.

While I don't want ANY 'censorship'.

Ledt the 'ideas' of the world compete on a LEVEL playing field.

[Kazan]

I got booted off Twitter completely for insulting David Hogg. All I posted was a picture of the two mountain men from Deliverance and told Hogg he better hope didn’t run into some mountain men with guns. It was obviously a joke.

[HarleyD]

They want “diverse views”. Just not yours.

[DiogenesLamp]

Kinda like the frog in the pot thingy? Or maybe the Two steps forward; one back" mantra?

Among my many talents, I write code. I occasionally write something that works perfectly the first time, but the vast majority of the time I have to evolve the code into doing what I want.

I can also see by many examples in history, that laws work similarly. Too often are they made with good intentions, but without thinking them through completely. Often there comes adverse consequences not contemplated by their framers.

So yeah, sometimes you have to do "two steps forward and one step back." You hope you don't, but you often do.

[OIFVeteran]

I’ve always thought laws and amendments should have an example or two on its application. Then the law is only applied with those examples in mind.

[DiogenesLamp]

I adhere to the strictly minimalist view of government.

Me too.

Granted, the propaganda in our public educational systems is worse than any public speech constraints you are calling for but I still don't want government controlled censorship.

Whoa! I'm perplexed. What thing did I say that you could possibly interpret as a call for government controlled censorship?

I'm calling for a government enforced *BAN* on Censorship.

[DiogenesLamp]

I’ve always thought laws and amendments should have an example or two on its application. Then the law is only applied with those examples in mind.

Examples are good, but if a crafty lawyer wants to deliberately misinterpret the verbiage, he can usually find a way to do it.

For example, how in the world do you get Abortion or "Gay Marriage" out of the 14th amendment?

[Crim]

Facebook is private property exactly like Free Republic...freedom of speech doesnt apply.

Im on a 30 ban for personally insulting suckerberg.

Lmao

[DiogenesLamp]

Facebook is private property exactly like Free Republic...freedom of speech doesnt apply.

I think the rules need to change when you carry traffic for millions/billions of users.

They need to be forced to behave like a telephone company, which was also a "private" property.

[higgmeister]

Whoa! I'm perplexed. What thing did I say that you could possibly interpret as a call for government controlled censorship?

I'm calling for a government enforced *BAN* on Censorship.

What you apparently do not see is that when you allow the government camel to put its nose under the tent, politicians will set up an arbiter, then Katy bar the door! All sorts of uncontrolled content run rampant. You still haven't convinced me.

I say control the privately owned censorship with legal and civil measures. Harvest competition against social media monopolies. But don't let our government attempt to "enforce a *BAN* on Censorship" because the result would have some ugly unintended consequences.

[DiogenesLamp]

What you apparently do not see is that when you allow the government camel to put its nose under the tent, politicians will set up an arbiter, then Katy bar the door!

Arbiter? How difficult is it to Arbitrate when you have a complainant? If someone complains they were censored, then they were censored. BAM! Massive fines directed at the company that did it.

Easy peasy. No discretion necessary.

I say control the privately owned censorship with legal and civil measures.

So you still see government as the solution here, you just want to use a different, more problematic branch of government to do it.

But don't let our government attempt to "enforce a *BAN* on Censorship" because the result would have some ugly unintended consequences.

I'm not coming up with any visualizations of how government banning censorship is going to bite us, providing that the criteria of "significant traffic" is applied. It may be that they keep trying to downsize the quantity of traffic necessary for anti-censorship to be enforced, but I think this problem is far more manageable than is this existing system where big carriers of traffic are controlling what the public is allowed to hear.