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Has the Deep State beaten Bill Barr?
americanthinker.com ^ | 02/15/2020 | Todd Gregory and Erik Gregory

Posted on 02/15/2020 5:20:31 AM PST by Bonemaker

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To: Lurkinanloomin

“No one born with more than ONE nationality is NATURALLY an American.”

Most of what you said is correct. This part..... not sure.

Whether Obama is “naturally” an American or even an “American” at all, is the question, but the way you phrased it I’m not sure exactly what you were trying to convey.

IF, what you meant was that No one born with more than ONE nationality is is a “natural born citizen”, then your statement is wrong.

A misconception that comes up a lot is that having dual citizenship somehow affects your U.S. citizenship. It does NOT.

The important concept to embrace here is that The United States of America decides the status and type of your American citizenship.

Foreign countries bestowing citizenship of their country ON you, has ZERO affect on your U.S. citizenship. How could it?!!

Ted Cruz running around dismissing and renouncing his Canadian citizenship was laughable.

His problem is not that Canada considered him a Canadian, it was that he’s Cubanadian! NOT ELIGIBLE TO THE OFFICE of President or Vice President.

Born on U.S. soil, to TWO citizen parentS.

A natural born citizen.

The United States of America decides your AMERICAN citizenship and status. It doesn’t matter whether Great Britain considers you a British citizen. It doesn’t matter if Israel considers you an Israeli citizen.

Again, foreign countries bestowing citizenship of their country ON you, has ZERO affect on your U.S. citizenship.

I was “born” a dual citizen. I was an American citizen (I was born here) and a French citizen until the age of maturity.

I wasn’t ineligible (remember it is your citizenship “status” AT BIRTH that is determinative) because I was a “dual citizen”, it was because BOTH my parents were not U.S. citizens when I was born. My mother, YES MOTHER, was a French citizen and didn’t become a U.S. citizen until many years later.

The fact that FRENCH law gave me French citizenship could in NO way affect my American citizenship.

Obama is an interesting case. I can’t say for sure if he is an American citizen or not. I can say for sure that he is not a constitutionally eligible “natural born citizen” of the United States.

His (legal) father was NEVER a U.S. citizen. End of eligibility consideration.

And, a side note, Barack Hussein Obama Sr. WAS his biological father as well as his legal father. His 1/2 brother, same FATHER different mother, Mark Obama, is the spitting image of Barry. He has the same voice, cadence, mannerisms as Barry. There can be NO DOUBT that Barack Hussein Obama Sr. is Barry’s biological father.

I digress. FORGET Indonesia. IT DOESN’T MATTER!

Do I “think” that Barry is a U.S. citizen AT ALL?

NO, I do NOT! Can’t prove it. BUT, a preponderance of the evidence says that he is not.

Born in Kenya (Kenyan birth certificate), smuggled into the USA, manipulated the new state of Hawaii’s laws, fake, forged, layered U.S. birth certificate, dead man’s social security number from a state that Obama never lived in, sealed records, and on and on and on.

Obama is a DUCK!


81 posted on 02/15/2020 9:03:40 AM PST by faucetman (Just the facts, ma'am, Just the facts)
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To: Bonemaker

Just for once I wish some here at FR didn’t see a massive diabolical conspiracy behind every major GOP player in the never ending melodramas.

Yes, there is a deep state—-the loathsome unelected partisan government workers who are 95% Rat and think their jobs are untouchable. And actually, most of their union-protected jobs are untouchable. It’s disgusting.

At this time I don’t believe Barr is corrupt and part of the extremely corrupt Deep State. I do believe that right now Barr is temporarily outflanked—but that doesn’t mean he’s been defeated. He needs to come up with some brilliant maneuvers to outflank and neutralize some Deep State bad actors.


82 posted on 02/15/2020 9:16:09 AM PST by RooRoobird20
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Deep? It is a CRIMINAL STATE not working on our behalf, but for themselves, their families, their friends. Watch them. Listen to them. Their covert clues and overt actions are everyday. 535+++and the top ten in about 350 agencies....that’s about 4000 vs 330 million. It has been the rule throughout history, not the exception...until ours, for a while, we enjoyed as good as anyone ever had it.

OOPS forgot to add in state governments, their congresses and apparatchiks.

Another 50 times X + external forces = ???

IIA


83 posted on 02/15/2020 9:43:09 AM PST by PGalt (Past Peak Civilization?)
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To: stanne
Tenth grade English!

You're not only fighting a losing battle....you're fighting WWIII, and you are destined to lose.

I appreciate the effort, though. I was hooked on books by way of my parents and my eighth-grade English teacher, and have been reading and writing since.

You'll hook one or two as well, every so often...make sure not to lose them!

84 posted on 02/15/2020 10:36:03 AM PST by Fightin Whitey
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To: Fightin Whitey

:)

They can’t scare me. I was taught by nuns. Dominicans. In habits. With weapons

I do hook some of them. One football player was my best poet. Once I had a mother ask me how I got her boys to refer to Shakespeare in everyday conversation. She looked at me like I had supernatural power. That was fu
Anyway, tenth grade boys are the funniest people on the planet.

If you overhear their private conversation They are curious by nature and they can be hooked. The spelling they have to get in grammar school. Like religion. Once they’re past that stage forget it.


85 posted on 02/15/2020 10:43:07 AM PST by stanne
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To: Bonemaker

The deep state sadly may only be brought to justice by a revolution much like that in France in 1789. Until I see scaffolds on the Washington Mall and these coup leaders being marched up the steps, there will be no justice.


86 posted on 02/15/2020 11:07:11 AM PST by The Great RJ ("Socialists are happy until they run out of other people's money." Margaret Thatcher)
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To: The Great RJ

Amen.


87 posted on 02/15/2020 12:35:41 PM PST by Bonemaker (invictus maneo2)
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To: RooRoobird20

“At this time I don’t believe Barr is corrupt...”

Then open your eyes and escape the delusion


88 posted on 02/15/2020 1:47:45 PM PST by Swirl
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To: faucetman

Born on U.S. soil, to TWO citizen parentS.

A natural born citizen.
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Precisely my point.
All the children of foreign nationals are born with divided citizenship, the very condition the founders were excluding.


89 posted on 02/15/2020 7:29:31 PM PST by Lurkinanloomin (Natural Born Citizens Are Born Here of Citizen Parents_Know Islam, No Peace-No Islam, Know Peace)
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