Posted on 02/02/2020 2:49:22 PM PST by Morgana
January is both Human Trafficking Awareness Month and Sanctity of Human Life Month. These issues have more in common than people may realize. Across numerous global studies of sex-trafficking survivors, abortion is a consistent part of the story. Both abortion and sex-trafficking are businesses that exploit women, sometimes in tandem as organizations such as Planned Parenthood enable the abuse for profit. And both are an affront to human dignity. Pimps Use Abortion to Maximize Profits
The risk of pregnancy is part of the sex-trafficking industry. Pimps and sex-traffickers are most concerned with profits, so when their victims become pregnant, they often force or pressure them to abort so they can put them right back onto the streets.
It is not unusual for females to be traffickers and to oversee a harem of victims, including taking them to get abortions, according to a 2014 documentary featuring testimony from sex-trafficking survivors. On the other hand, male pimps will sometimes impregnate their victims to keep them under control.
Research shows that, as a whole, women who abort undergo some form of coercion and even violence. In a recent study of womens abortion experiences, 58.3 percent reported aborting to make others happy, and 73.8 percent said their decision to abort was not free from outside pressure. Homicide due to intimate partner violence is a leading cause of death during pregnancy. Imagine how much greater the coercive pressure to abort is on women who are being sexually exploited for profit.
One sex-trafficking survivor described her experience:
Over the years I had pimps and customers who hit me, punched me, kicked me, beat me, slashed me with a razor. I had forced unprotected sex and got pregnant three times and had two abortions at [a clinic]. Afterward, I was back out on the street again.
Abortion Data Among Trafficking Victims Is Shocking
A ground-breaking study by the Beazley Institute found 66 human-trafficking survivors had a total of 114 abortions 114 abortions among 66 women. Let that sink in.
While only half of these women specified whether their abortions were voluntary or forced, of those who answered, a majority indicated that coercion played a role in at least one of their abortions. One survivor who endured six abortions recounted, I was under serious pressure from my pimps to abort the babies.
Two-thirds of trafficking survivors in the Beazley study had their abortions in clinics; nearly 30 percent said they went to Planned Parenthood. One survivor described her situation:
I got pregnant six times and had six abortions during this time. Several of them were from a doctor who was a client he did them backdoor. At least one of my abortions was from Planned Parenthood because they didnt ask any questions. You went backdoor where the charge was more like $150.
Several undercover investigations have documented Planned Parenthoods failure to report rape, as well as its aiding and abetting of sex-trafficking. Planned Parenthood engages in this behavior unchecked, even as its latest financial report reveals a revenue of $1.6 billion. Traffickers and Abortionists Profit from Human Suffering
Human-trafficking is a $150 billion per year global industry, the second-most profitable form of transnational crime after drug trafficking. It most frequently takes the form of sex-trafficking, which rakes in an estimated $99 billion per year. A study by the Urban Institute that interviewed pimps and traffickers found they can make anywhere from $5,000 to $32,833 a week. Women and girls make up 71 percent of their victims.
The pimps and traffickers interviewed in the Urban Institute study said the commercial sex industry is a low-risk, high-reward enterprise. Part of the reason sex-trafficking is so low-risk is due to our societys lack of awareness, but could it also be due to a lack of intervention perhaps even aiding and abetting from those in direct contact with victims and traffickers? Doctors who exploit women for sex and abortion centers that turn a blind eye for profit, such as Planned Parenthood, enable the sex-trafficking industry.
The connection between abortion and sex-trafficking cannot be denied. Both are an affront to human dignity, and both are profiting from human suffering. The survivor of six abortions incurred severe infections from the scar tissue, necessitating a hysterectomy. She could no longer bear children if she wanted. Our message to her and all the other victims of commercialized sex-exploitation is this: We see you.
This January, its time for Americans to decide whether we will stand up for millions of women forced to endure trauma upon trauma and the innocent lives snuffed out, or continue to tolerate the abuses of the abortion and sex-trafficking industries.
When did this become gender based? It isn’t all one way.
In 2016, a Department of Justice-commissioned study, Youth Involvement in the Sex Trade, found that boys make up about 36% of children caught up in the U.S. sex industry (about 60% are female and less than 5% are transgender males and females).
In 2008, researchers from the John Jay School of Criminal Justice reported that boys account for about 45% of child trafficking victims in New York City.
In 2013, an ECPAT-USA report concluded that the scope of (the commercial sexual exploitation of boys) is vastly under reported. The researchers also cited the need to better identify male victims, to raise awareness about the harm caused by commercial exploitation and to provide more services designed specifically for boys.
Does an article like this display the problem in a sense of urgency or cause it to be overlooked and kicked down the road? Hell and a fury can be raised about something as unimportant as the amount of money applied to women’s sports in school but they will completely overlook and misrepresent the urgency of male exploitation in the sex trade even to the point of admitted existence. What are they thinking?
rwood
Only girls and women matter in the gynocentric society we are infected with.
The patrons of these services are overwhelmingly male.
I'm all in favor of helping boys who are trapped in this get out, but men could put an end to this tomorrow if they wanted to simply by not patronizing the traffickers.
“not patronizing the traffickers.”
I’m sorry, I failed to get my point across. Exploitation is not the problem related to gender. It is a far bigger thing than that. According to Director of the Crimes Against Children Research Center in 2010, show that:
1 in 5 girls and 1 in 20 boys is a victim of child sexual abuse;
Self-report studies show that 20% of adult females and 5-10% of adult males recall a childhood sexual assault or sexual abuse incident;
During a one-year period in the U.S., 16% of youth ages 14 to 17 had been sexually victimized;
Over the course of their lifetime, 28% of U.S. youth ages 14 to 17 had been sexually victimized;
Children are most vulnerable to CSA between the ages of 7 and 13.
According to the UN the problem is far from in the US. Their studies indicate that 1.8 million children are involved in prostitution or pornography and 1.2 million have been trafficked.
“The patrons of these services are overwhelmingly male.”
This is hard to track. Whereas I agree that a majority are accomplished by men, data from the Royal Commission into Institutional Responses to Child Sexual Abuse estimates that somewhere between 90 to 95% of all sexual abuse goes unreported, and the number is probably even higher for female-perpetrated sexual abuse. So it does exist, and likely in greater numbers than we are told. So the sickness is worldwide and will not be stopped that easy. It’s just the evil in the world. And it can’t be controlled realistically.
rwood
Whenever I bring up that it's men patronizing this business, someone always replies with the possibility that the female percentage is much higher. We don't know what the make up of the unreported cases are, but we do know who the reported cases are.
I reply this way because I'm tired of others trying to gloss over the fact that the vast majoritity of the patrons are male. That males make up a high percentage of the victimes doesn't excuse that.
I'm so disgusted with this because some men (not all) think that kidnapping, drugging, and abusing girls an women is a price worth paying to get some action.
I'm also disgusted because men always complain about the discrimination they face in the family courts or the war on boys, but spend billions a year on prostitution while spending next to nothing supporting the MRAs who are fighting the discrimination they are always complaining about. Even those who patronize women who are hookers "by choice" (that is not forced in by traffickers) are still deciding that getting a warm wet spot to stick it into is more important than the rights of their sons, yet they want everyone to rally around their cause and defend them when it's their turn to get shafted by the system.
The latter is self inflicted. It's forcing women and girls into prostitution so that men can have a warm wet spot to stick it into that disgusts me.
“....so that men can have a warm wet spot to stick it into that disgusts me.
As it should. But to say that the action is one way and give the appearance that men are the cause and effect and he reason the problem exists, is short sided. If you want to complain about the sex trafficking, I agree.
” We don’t know what the make up of the unreported cases are, but we do know who the reported cases are.”
Do we? We only know what we are supposed to hear about with a small percentage so the gender lines can be determined and create another class of victims to further the attack to be lead in one direction and not the other.
One such survey of college students accomplished by the American Association of University Women stated that:
Female students reported experiencing sexual harassment more than the male students, the percentage of male students reporting sexual harassment increased from 49% in 1993 to 56% in 2001. Unreported cases for men were normally unreported due to fear or embarrassment.
But the point is they do exist in large enough numbers to be considered a big enough problem to not be overlooked due to gender. The size of the problem has nothing to do with the correction of it. It’s wrong both ways and exists both ways. Correct both ways.
rwood
I'm still waiting on the numbers. Until then, I see no evidence that the perception that men are the main patrons by a huge margin is not correct.
Do we? We only know what we are supposed to hear about with a small percentage so the gender lines can be determined and create another class of victims to further the attack to be lead in one direction and not the other.
Evidence?
Female students reported experiencing sexual harassment more than the male students, the percentage of male students reporting sexual harassment increased from 49% in 1993 to 56% in 2001. Unreported cases for men were normally unreported due to fear or embarrassment.
I have no doubt that female harassment and violence against males is higher than reported, but whose fault is it that it goes unreported? By whose choice is it considered an embarrassment to report female crimes against men?
Its wrong both ways and exists both ways. Correct both ways.
If you're referring to human trafficking, of course they should arrest the women who patronize it. How does pointing that out prove that women have any presence, never mind a major presence, among those who patronize the traffickers' products?
As for doing something about men being harrassed or assaulted by women and then discriminated against by "the system", what are men waiting for? They have billions to spend on prostitution. 1% of that would be millions that could be used to fight this. No one is stopping men but men.
“....more than the male students...”
Does it make any difference whether the wrong means more because it is predominately more female than male? You’re saying, if I understand you right, that it is a female problem and needs to be corrected because of that. I’m saying it is both ways, female and male, and needs to be corrected period. I don’t care which gender is being exploited or mistreated or trafficked. They’re both wrong.
“....arrest the women who patronize it.”
Again, you are never going to get the people that patronize it as it is done in every country on earth. And the using of ripped off people in another country for sexual exploitation is not within our capacity. Prostitution in Nevada is even legal outside the cities. So how do you account for that.
Additionally there are many male escort service for women for the purpose of string free “companionship.” One, cowboys4angels.com is a lot more than just street sex.
COWBOYS4ANGELS has been a hot topic over the past ten years in the press. We have personally appeared on the Tyra Banks show, the Dr. Phil show, 20/20, Night Line News, the Joy Behar Show, NatGeo Taboo, TLC Discovery and the list goes on. We have been featured in Playgirl, Glamour, Sheen, Hustler, Cosmopolitan and Esquire Magazine. Please take a moment to watch our recent press clips along with reading some of the articles of the agency. Hopefully you will be impressed with our level of professionalism and feel safe allowing us to provide you with an amazing encounter with one of our elite men. All at a cost of around $500 an hour. There are many more for both and different tastes. The net’s full of them. But they are discrete enough not to be obvious and get nailed in states other than Nevada.
And there are many other services that pamper to women like Mintboys that cater to both sexes and Rentboys that are gay only. You can look them up on the net. And if you think they aren’t making money, they wouldn’t be there. There’s even been TV shows and movies about houses like the Chicken Ranch and Mustang Ranch. Both were real and catered to both sexes.
“I see no evidence that the perception that men are the main patrons by a huge margin is not correct.”
I never said it was or wasn’t. I never provided any numbers. I didn’t provide any numbers that said men or women were more into solicited sex. I told you it would be impossible to give you a number either way because of the discretionary aspect of the job. I’m saying that women (janes) do exist in a large enough number to be a market.
But see, you and I have one major disparity, you want to catch the johns, just the men only even though there are many women pimps and solicitors in the business. And I want to catch the kidnappers that get them to where they have no hope of escape like in another country.
You can try to catch the men, and I can try to cut off the source of tools. But I am not going to determine whether more men than women, or oherwise use prostitutes when both are wrong and one is not worse than the other in that any both do.
Prostitution is not the problem in the US and the law displays that, it is well defined. A conviction for solicitation of prostitution can result in a jail sentence of up to a year in most states. First-time offenders typically face much shorter jail sentences, such as a maximum of between 30 days to six months. Felony convictions can result in a prison sentence of at least a year, and possibly five years or more.
Kidnapping is another story. Kidnapping convictions can result in lengthy prison sentences, including life sentences in some situations and states. Sentences of 20 years or more are common for first degree or aggravated kidnapping.
You want to put men in jail for no more than five years for solicitation and I want the kidnappers to get as much as life with 20 years common in most states with nothing attached yet for the Mann Act that will add a lot to it. You tell me which one is more contributory to the illicit sex and violence to the victim? The law speaks for itself.
“I have no doubt that female harassment and violence against males is higher than reported, but whose fault is it that it goes unreported?”
Who cares? You admit that it exists is all it needs to a need to stop it. But in your own words, female harassment and violence against males is higher than reported. And that would have to include sexual harassment just like the men. You can’t have both.
rwood
To repeat from my last post, "If you're referring to human trafficking, of course they should arrest the women who patronize it."
Again, you are never going to get the people that patronize it as it is done in every country on earth. And the using of ripped off people in another country for sexual exploitation is not within our capacity.
I understand these challenges, but I don't understand why it means we shouldn't call out those who patronize it.
Prostitution in Nevada is even legal outside the cities. So how do you account for that.
What do I need to account for? Human trafficking, both selling and buying, is a crime regardless of whether prostitution is legal.
Additionally there are many male escort service for women for the purpose of string free companionship. One, cowboys4angels.com is a lot more than just street sex.
Since we're talking about kidnapping people and forcing them into prostitution, I'm waiting for your evidence that any of the men in these clubs was forced into it.
"COWBOYS4ANGELS has been a hot topic over the past ten years in the press....All at a cost of around $500 an hour."
And it must be true if they posted it on the Internet.
Rentboys that are gay only.
I don't doubt this. Given the promiscuity in the homosexual community, there is no reason to assume that homosexual men don't pay for it at the same rate as straight men. However, how does any of this refute my point on the buyer's role in human trafficking?
Im saying that women (janes) do exist in a large enough number to be a market.
You keep saying that, but then respond to calls for evidence by saying there is no evidence. Well, if this is any indication, the market for male prostitutes for "janes" isn't that hot, no pun intended.
But see, you and I have one major disparity, you want to catch the johns, just the men only even though there are many women pimps and solicitors in the business. And I want to catch the kidnappers that get them to where they have no hope of escape like in another country.
I never said that I didn't want to catch the traffickers, male and female. I just want to help shine a light on the buyers who keep them in business and make it profitable. They're the reason this crap happens.
You can try to catch the men, and I can try to cut off the source of tools. But I am not going to determine whether more men than women, or oherwise use prostitutes when both are wrong and one is not worse than the other in that any both do.
I'll agree that any one man who patronizes human traffickers is no worse than any one woman, but billions are spent on human trafficking, and no one is under the illusion that women make up a large percentage of the buyers. If you want to ignore that the vast majority are men, it doesn't change the fact of it, or the that billions are spent on it that could have been used to fight against the injustices men are always complaining about.
You want to put men in jail for no more than five years for solicitation and I want the kidnappers to get as much as life with 20 years common in most states with nothing attached yet for the Mann Act that will add a lot to it. You tell me which one is more contributory to the illicit sex and violence to the victim? The law speaks for itself.
No, I want to treat patronizing the human traffickers as serious a crime as being the traffickers.
Who cares?
Men do, when it's their turn to get screwed. The problem is getting them to care enough to do something about it before it's their turn.
You admit that it exists is all it needs to a need to stop it. But in your own words, female harassment and violence against males is higher than reported. And that would have to include sexual harassment just like the men. You cant have both.
I'm not sure what you're getting at here, but yes harrassment and assault against men (and boys) by females is more prevalent than is reported. But here's the problem.
How much money to women spend every year on fighting for their rights, and how much do they spend on prostitution?
Now, how much money to men spend every year on fighting for their rights, and how much do they spend on prostitution?
See the problem?
“How much money to women spend every year on fighting for their rights, and how much do they spend on prostitution?
Now, how much money to men spend every year on fighting for their rights, and how much do they spend on prostitution?”
It has nothing to do with how much money is spent by people in the US. You are so worried about finding the little guy being more guilty than the little gal, that it overshadows the real problem entirely.
You are calling the sex traffic industry just prostitution and I’m calling it a crime long before it reaches that stage. You overlook the kidnapping and forced participation very short sidedly worrying about the end game cost.
The real cost is not in how much money for rights or privileges are being afforded by apparently men only which I read as the gist of your entries. The real cost is the destruction of lives through kidnapping and torture. You don’t seem to care that is going on as you are just after the men who partake of it long after the fact.
I have provided you with sites, names, and proof of existence of things you have asked for. Now it’s your turn. Please provide to yourself the percentages of women that were forced into prostitution at street levels by an organization they joined versus one they were kidnapped into. You won’t find that one as there is no way to determine that. And don’t limit your self to just the street occupation. Go into porn, the S & M groups, the child trade, and look at it overseas both coming and going. If you can find it, you’ll find it is astronomical. And in many countries...legal.
But here’s some interesting thoughts about the sex industry in a study done by Time Magazine:
Some parts of the industry are more marketable than others.
Family has a greater influence on the decision to go into sex work then previously thought. The study found that pimps and sex workers were often encouraged by family members to get into the business.
Sex work isnt all that lucrative, but it seems to offer a way out from even more dire circumstances.
And the worst of all:
One illicit sex industry that defied economic calculus was the child pornography industry. According to the study, kiddie porn is often traded for free.
And I’ll almost guarantee you that a vast majority of those kids were kidnapped. Catch the kidnappers and you kill the source of the industry. Catch the john or jane and you provide room for another one from an already provided source.
How much money provided by people based upon gender who partake of the industry means nothing to me. It’s wrong both ways. But it’s worse by not stopping the source.
Thank you for the conversation. I hope you find what you are looking for. So long.
rwood
I never said that we should just go after the guys, but only that the guys make up the majority of the human trafficking buyers.
You are calling the sex traffic industry just prostitution and Im calling it a crime long before it reaches that stage.
I never called human trafficking "just prostitution" or anything close. It involves kidnapping drugging, and forced prostitution, all of which the men who "patronize those products" think is justified in providing them with a warm wet spot to stick it into. That alone is enough to make me disgusted, but that's not all there is to it.
That those human traffickers are making billions off of men while the MRAs get next to no support just makes it even worse. Given a choice of fighting for their sons against the so called "war on boys" or getting laid, these men choose the latter.
You overlook the kidnapping and forced participation very short sidedly worrying about the end game cost.
Have you actually read my posts? I condemed that in post 6 TO YOU. To repeat, "I'm so disgusted with this because some men (not all) think that kidnapping, drugging, and abusing girls an(d) women is a price worth paying to get some action."
The real cost is not in how much money for rights or privileges are being afforded by apparently men only which I read as the gist of your entries.
That is a cost, but that's a cost to men who have a choice.
The real cost is the destruction of lives through kidnapping and torture. You dont seem to care that is going on as you are just after the men who partake of it long after the fact.
The men who partake are the ones who are making it profitable. That's the part you seem to miss.
I have provided you with sites, names, and proof of existence of things you have asked for. Now its your turn. Please provide to yourself the percentages of women that were forced into prostitution at street levels by an organization they joined versus one they were kidnapped into. You wont find that one as there is no way to determine that. And dont limit your self to just the street occupation. Go into porn, the S & M groups, the child trade, and look at it overseas both coming and going. If you can find it, youll find it is astronomical. And in many countries...legal.
I have no idea what your point is here. I understand there is a difference between consensual sex and human trafficking. Let's just say there are more people who are consentual S&M relationships or other kink than are forced into prostitution via human traffickers. How does that make the human traffickers or their patrons any less evil?
As for kidnapping for trafficking being legal in some places, that doesn't make it right, and it doesn't make it right to patronize the traffickers.
Family has a greater influence on the decision to go into sex work then previously thought. The study found that pimps and sex workers were often encouraged by family members to get into the business.
I don't doubt that, but that doesn't make them any less guilty.
Sex work isnt all that lucrative, but it seems to offer a way out from even more dire circumstances.
If those billions of dollars spent on the world's oldest profession were spent on other things, it might create opportunities for them to get out of whatever "dire circumstances" they're facing.
And the worst of all: One illicit sex industry that defied economic calculus was the child pornography industry. According to the study, kiddie porn is often traded for free.
That is disgusting.
And Ill almost guarantee you that a vast majority of those kids were kidnapped. Catch the kidnappers and you kill the source of the industry. Catch the john or jane and you provide room for another one from an already provided source.
You have it backwards. Get the kidnappers and others will take their place, as long as there's money in it. Catch the buyers, and no more profits. Better yet, stop pretending one isn't as bad as the other and go after both.
How much money provided by people based upon gender who partake of the industry means nothing to me. Its wrong both ways. But its worse by not stopping the source.
The source is the buyers. They provide the funding to commit these crimes.
Thank you for the conversation. I hope you find what you are looking for. So long.
When people see the buyers as being just as bad as, if not worse than the sellers, then I'll have what I'm looking for.
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