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Hollywood has been more heavily censored since 2001, films bashing US army & CIA can’t go public – Oliver Stone to RT
rt.com ^ | Jan 30, 2020 | RT

Posted on 01/31/2020 10:47:47 PM PST by ransomnote

The American film industry changed beyond recognition after the milestone year of 2001, director Oliver Stone told RT, with producers using financial restraints to censor movies challenging the US military or the CIA. “Maybe in the 1980s, when I did ‘Platoon’, ‘Born on the Fourth of July’ and ‘Heaven & Earth’, I could do that, because it was a slightly more relaxed system,” said the award-winning filmmaker, mentioning his famed movies while making his case during former Ecuadorean President Rafael Correa’s show on RT Spanish.

When the Iron Curtain fell and the Cold War ended, things didn’t change for the better, Stone believes. “My film career has suffered, because sometimes I’ve said things that American producers hate to hear,” he revealed, adding that those sponsoring film productions sometimes resort to “economic censorship.”

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"The CIA realized – after World War II, basically – they [went into] the business, the news business, they put their people, their agents at newspapers, at magazines and television."

~Oliver Stone

rnote: I am not endorsing Oliver Stone, just noticed he at least is willing to say that the CIA is in the news business. This was well known and the topic of public hearings . 

Excerpt From Wikipedia:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Mockingbird#Congressional_investigations

After the Watergate scandal in 1972–1974, the U.S. Congress became concerned over possible presidential abuse of the CIA. This concern reached its height when reporter Seymour Hersh published an exposé of CIA domestic surveillance in 1975.[8] Congress authorized a series of Congressional investigations into Agency activities from 1975 to 1976. A wide range of CIA operations were examined in these investigations, including CIA ties with journalists and numerous private voluntary organizations.

The most extensive discussion of CIA relations with news media from these investigations is in the Church Committee's final report, published in April 1976. The report covered CIA ties with both foreign and domestic news media.

For foreign news media, the report concluded that:

The CIA currently maintains a network of several hundred foreign individuals around the world who provide intelligence for the CIA and at times attempt to influence opinion through the use of covert propaganda. These individuals provide the CIA with direct access to a large number of newspapers and periodicals, scores of press services and news agencies, radio and television stations, commercial book publishers, and other foreign media outlets.[9]


1 posted on 01/31/2020 10:47:48 PM PST by ransomnote
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To: ransomnote

Getting hired to read papers( in other languages and English) while sifting falsified dossiers and top secret papers is par for the course. Add to the fact most Journalists are low IQ retards you can sway a country.


2 posted on 01/31/2020 10:50:53 PM PST by Karliner (Jeremiah 29:11, Romans 8:28 Isa 17 "This is the end of the beginning" W Churchill)
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To: ransomnote

Re: “films bashing US Army & CIA can’t go public”

LOL - yeah, because they can’t make enough money to break even!


3 posted on 02/01/2020 12:35:33 AM PST by zeestephen
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To: zeestephen

should all news casters go on record with a lie detector that they haven’t ever told lies or shifted the headline for our government?


4 posted on 02/01/2020 1:15:12 AM PST by willyd (I for one welcome our NSA overlords)
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To: ransomnote

Stone is an idiot. I can listen to government funded anti-americanism every day on NPR and PBS. And practically every movie that is produced in Hollywood today is more wokester commie swill. The cries of “revolution” from addle-pated geriatric hippies, like Stone and Crazy Bernie, are just demented noise. These scumbags own everything now. They’ve all gone mainstream. The idea that these hucksters just can’t get their propaganda out there because of some “vast right wing conspiracy” is not only ludicrous now, i’ts flat-out insane.


5 posted on 02/01/2020 1:53:56 AM PST by DrPretorius
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To: ransomnote

“...with producers using financial restraints to censor movies challenging the US military or the CIA.”

Amazing, exactly how Hollyweird should work, and he’s bitchin’ about it.


6 posted on 02/01/2020 3:30:36 AM PST by PubliusMM (RKBA; a matter of fact, not opinion. Mr Trump, we've got your six.)
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To: ransomnote

I like Oliver Stone films in general, but I think his version of the ‘facts’ here are not correct. I won’t say he hasn’t faced pressure to not show certain negative aspects of the US military, because how would I know? However, the record just does not show a lack of anti-military, anti-CIA sentiment in movies since 2001 like he states:

For instance, we have seen way too much of is PTSD related plots, which are in fact anti-military, these are some of the famous ones:
-Harsh Times
-The Hurt Locker
-Brothers
-American Sniper
-Gran Torino
-In The Valley Of Elah

Then there’s no shortage of anti-intelligence movies:
-The Bourne Trilogy
-Snowden (<-—Oliver Stone!)
-Syriana
-The Good Shepherd
-The Green Zone
-The Interpreter
-Mission Impossible Rogue Nation
-Shooter


7 posted on 02/01/2020 4:14:19 AM PST by KobraKai
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To: KobraKai

Let’s not forget those films that believe slavery ended just yesterday.


8 posted on 02/01/2020 5:02:49 AM PST by DIRTYSECRET (urope. Why do they put up with this.)
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To: ransomnote

If OS thinks it’s hard to call out the US military and CIA, he should try criticizing the Chicoms.

He’d be out on the street in a heartbeat.


9 posted on 02/01/2020 5:17:55 AM PST by Bratch (“If liberty means anything at all, it means the right to tell people what they do not want to hear.)
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To: ransomnote

Whatever Oliver Stone’s opinion is, what it isn’t is naturally NOT GOOD FOR THE USA.

The man hates us and USA.


10 posted on 02/01/2020 5:35:19 AM PST by Maris Crane
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To: ransomnote

You mean like
“Lions to Lambs”
“The Green Zone”
“Jarhead”

Like those kinds of military bashing films that can’t be produced?

Stone just made some real clunkers. Hollywood noticed.


11 posted on 02/01/2020 5:59:02 AM PST by LS ("Castles made of sand, fall in the sea . . . eventually" (Hendrix))
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To: KobraKai

Good on you. You remembered a LOT more of these anti-American/anti-military movies than I did.


12 posted on 02/01/2020 5:59:36 AM PST by LS ("Castles made of sand, fall in the sea . . . eventually" (Hendrix))
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To: ransomnote

What a joke. There was a rash of anti-military movies from
2002 on. It’s part of the reason that I rarely go to the movie theater.


13 posted on 02/01/2020 6:23:16 AM PST by Arones (When Leftists are in a minority, then they look for other ways to win.)
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To: Maris Crane

“The man hates us and USA.”

Which is why I boycotted his films. I’m willing to see films with a political outlook different than my own, but I won’t give money to outright USA haters like him.

Then I broke my own boycott when Alexander came out because the subject matter was so enticing, but the movie just sucked!


14 posted on 02/01/2020 6:42:58 AM PST by SoCal Pubbie
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To: SoCal Pubbie

Same here!

There’s very few movies about the ancient classical world I won’t go see no matter how wretched the actors, producer or directors are as people.


15 posted on 02/01/2020 6:48:15 AM PST by Reily
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To: KobraKai

bttt


16 posted on 02/01/2020 7:05:34 AM PST by BenLurkin (The above is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire. Or both.)
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To: ransomnote

17 posted on 02/01/2020 7:06:01 AM PST by Clarence The One Eyed Lion
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To: Maris Crane

“The man hates us and USA.”

I suppose it’s possible that’s true. I’ve always had the opinion of him that he’s a conspiracy theorist, and an anti-establishment guy who leans too far to the left. I certainly don’t like some of his views, especially sometimes the way he changes history in his biopics like Born on the 4th of July.

I know that he never believes what the official media/government explanation is for any big event, and I don’t know if that stems from his Vietnam experience or what. Sometimes that can work in his favor and he can come off sensible (Snowden), and other times it works against him and he can really enrage our side too, for instance romanticizing Fidel Castro’s Cuba.

It does really bother me how much affection he has for Central American and South American communists.


18 posted on 02/01/2020 7:24:54 AM PST by KobraKai
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To: KobraKai

I like Oliver Stone films in general, but I think his version of the ‘facts’ here are not correct.

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I think his version of the facts is intentionally biased and some respects and unintentionally in the rest.

I believe the Deep State signals lefties to raise an outcry if and when pro military film is made. They encourage anti-military films which repulse viewers, and then lash viewers for being unwilling to accept the “truth”, being ideologically naive, or being “bitter clingers” or calling such films war porn. If military films are “allowed” to be made, there’s some element in them the CIA wants to put forth (e.g., PTSD). Then when the CIA has a current interest in either contributing to a call for war or demanding a cessation of engagement, the “appropriate” type of military programming is put forth.

I believe Stone included “military” in his focus to “dress up” the conspicuous position the CIA has in our Media and extensive influence on our culture through entertainment. The CIA has captured communications in our country as it does in other countries.

What amazed me was that Stone referenced the CIA at all in any context - they are that hidden.


19 posted on 02/01/2020 7:34:35 AM PST by ransomnote (IN GOD WE TRUST)
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To: KobraKai

It does really bother me how much affection he has for Central American and South American communists.


If you’re looking for a pony in the pile...there is the shock that he has “affection” for anything.


20 posted on 02/01/2020 7:48:18 AM PST by Maris Crane
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