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Coronavirus Live Update Jan 28, 2020 (Agenda Free TV)
Agenda Free TV ^ | Jan 28, 2020

Posted on 01/28/2020 3:08:48 PM PST by 11th_VA

131 Dead, 5564 Cases


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To: janetjanet998

At this point, the one person I would NOT want to be is head of China’s CDC.

Like being the lieutenant of Darth Vader.

(insert famous movie out take)


221 posted on 01/29/2020 7:17:29 AM PST by Black Agnes
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To: dangus
"Simple. Dead bodies get counted."

Depends upon who is doing the counting, and if they decide to report an accurate number. Here's a quote that might remind you of the type of people with whom we are dealing:

“Those who vote decide nothing. Those who count the vote decide everything.” ― Joseph Stalin

222 posted on 01/29/2020 7:17:57 AM PST by Ancesthntr ("The right to buy weapons is the right to be free." A. E. van Vogt, The Weapons Shops of Isher)
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To: ProtectOurFreedom

Thanks for the chart - actual facts (assuming that the chart is accurate, with China we never know for sure) are few and far between with this thing.

Interesting that 39% of patients with symptoms go into ICU. With north of 5,000 officially diagnosed, that means about 2,000 in ICUs. One has to wonder at what point their system became (past tense) overwhelmed...

...which leads to another question: once we get hit hard by this disease (and we will), at what point will OUR system get overwhelmed? No matter how advanced we are, we have only so many trained people (and some of them will also get sick, count on it), and so much in the way of drugs that will have any effectiveness. At a certain point a disaster will make even the US medical system comparable to living in rural China, simply because there won’t be the resources necessary to do what we obviously know how to do.


223 posted on 01/29/2020 7:24:02 AM PST by Ancesthntr ("The right to buy weapons is the right to be free." A. E. van Vogt, The Weapons Shops of Isher)
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To: janetjanet998

Finland confirms first case of new #Wuhan originated #coronavirus in Lapland. The person had traveled to Finland from Wuhan area. (article in Finnish)

https://twitter.com/LauraHuu/status/1222541873769861120


224 posted on 01/29/2020 7:28:18 AM PST by janetjanet998
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To: janetjanet998
"Air Canada suspending flights to China"

Misleading. Air Canada is suspending some flights to China, probably just to Hubei at this time.

Accuracy is important during times like these so as to not induce undue alarm.

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-china-health-airlines-routes-factbox-idUSKBN1ZS18F
225 posted on 01/29/2020 7:31:21 AM PST by BusterDog
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To: 21twelve

“More humid warm air of summer - not so much. Hence “Flu Season” is in the winter.”


Flu season is also a product of less circulating Vitamin D in the bloodstream. You get Vitamin D naturally with exposure to the Sun. Your peak levels are probably in September, and they continue to decline until about April when people start wearing short sleeves and shorts, and going out more.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4463890/ The relevant portion of the article starts in the 2nd paragraph. This is one of many, many studies.

FYI, forgetting the coronavirus completely, it is a good idea to take Vitamin D supplements, and not just in the winter. Even in the summer we are urged to wear long sleeves and cover ourselves with sunblock if we don’t, out of a fear of developing skin cancer later. So we have lower levels of Vitamin D than previous generations. WRT the coronavirus, I have no idea whether having high levels will help to reduce the likelihood of infection and/or reduce the severity and duration of the disease if you get infected. There simply hasn’t been enough time to even think about such a study...though I hope that one is done at some point.


226 posted on 01/29/2020 7:36:37 AM PST by Ancesthntr ("The right to buy weapons is the right to be free." A. E. van Vogt, The Weapons Shops of Isher)
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To: Vermont Lt; mrsmith

“As much as I would love to bash the CCP, I think they might just not have accurate numbers. The problem is that many of the deaths will not be counted. They will be marked pneumonia, and cremated.”


The latter is particularly true among the older people in the population, as that is a normal part of every flu season. Unfortunately for determining the truth of this matter, that is exactly the population group that is most affected by this virus. Many are probably not even trying to go to the hospital now, as they know that they won’t get treatment. This is, I believe, a large part of the reason why the Chinese government is pulling out all of the stops to build 2 new hospitals in 10 days

As an aside, who builds 2 hospitals in 10 days AND quarantines 50 million people for the flu? Something that we simply don’t know about now is scaring the crap out of their government - and I would point to the bio-weapons facility 20 miles from Wuhan as a likely source of the reason why they are so scared. I personally believe that they were weaponizing the coronavirus, and it (or a bat, or several) escaped (or were helped to escape by someone looking to make a few yuan).


227 posted on 01/29/2020 7:43:36 AM PST by Ancesthntr ("The right to buy weapons is the right to be free." A. E. van Vogt, The Weapons Shops of Isher)
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To: Black Agnes

Vitamin D levels are almost certainly a factor, but probably not the entire answer.


228 posted on 01/29/2020 7:46:03 AM PST by Ancesthntr ("The right to buy weapons is the right to be free." A. E. van Vogt, The Weapons Shops of Isher)
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To: Ancesthntr

You should know the answer at least for your local area. Go take a peek in your emergency room in the evening. If the waiting room is full, the answer for how quickly it is overwhelmed is it already is.

As for critical care abilities, most hospital rooms are equipped to also be critical care. Most everyone else will get moved out to acute care facilities, those in acute care will get discharged early. 65,000 to 135,000 can be accommodated without breaking the system. Above that number? You’ll get tens of thousands dumped into impromptu hospice care. (That’s not Coronavirus victims, but the normal U.S. hospital load, seniors with broken bones, non-Coronavirus flu, etc.)


229 posted on 01/29/2020 7:46:26 AM PST by kingu (Everything starts with slashing the size and scope of the federal government.)
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To: grey_whiskers

Very clever.

Now if people would just listen to that advice (just like the original advice provided by the snake), we’d live in a much better world.


230 posted on 01/29/2020 7:48:09 AM PST by Ancesthntr ("The right to buy weapons is the right to be free." A. E. van Vogt, The Weapons Shops of Isher)
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To: Ancesthntr

Agreed.

It might circulate, suboptimally, until fall. Meanwhile the infected sniffle or sneeze a few times and might not even realize they’re infected.


231 posted on 01/29/2020 7:48:47 AM PST by Black Agnes
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To: steve86

I wonder home many whites have died from the virus in China.


232 posted on 01/29/2020 7:51:12 AM PST by jetson
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To: Vermont Lt

“I guess the good news is that a flood of information will come from the groups of people being brought back from Wuhan this week.

We won’t get numbers, but we will get a taste of what it is like on the ground.”


...and quite a few cases of coronavirus as a bonus! Think of the opportunity to study this interesting and novel little critter./s

Yeah, it’ll be good to get more, and more accurate, information...but at what cost?


233 posted on 01/29/2020 7:52:32 AM PST by Ancesthntr ("The right to buy weapons is the right to be free." A. E. van Vogt, The Weapons Shops of Isher)
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To: jetson

Da plane!

Landing in 4 minutes at March.


234 posted on 01/29/2020 7:53:03 AM PST by bgill
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To: Ancesthntr
There were reports that during the 1918 flu, the sick people that were on outside beds recovered better, leading many to believe that Vitamin D3 helped. I personally believe humans were not meant to be inside as much as we are these days 🙂
235 posted on 01/29/2020 7:55:12 AM PST by LilFarmer
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To: blueplum

I thought that walls didn’t work? That’s what ABCCBSMSNBCNBCMOUSE has been telling us for years. Maybe they should send some of their reporters there to make sure that the people in China are informed about the facts of life.


236 posted on 01/29/2020 7:55:17 AM PST by Ancesthntr ("The right to buy weapons is the right to be free." A. E. van Vogt, The Weapons Shops of Isher)
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To: jetson
"I wonder home many whites have died from the virus in China.

I don't think any have died but I've seen reports that Caucasians have been infected. I can't remember whether it was the German or Australian cases.
237 posted on 01/29/2020 7:58:39 AM PST by BusterDog
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To: palmer; Magic Fingers

Counted by whom? Determined to have died from coronavirus by whom?

Coroners.


There are only so many of them, and reports that even dead bodies can spread the disease. I’m thinking that they might have checked a few near the beginning, and maybe the occasional person now, but that they are both unwilling and unable to check everyone. Hence, even THEY have incomplete information and even if they chose to be completely honest, so would we. If they aren’t being honest and open (which is the way to bet), then we’re not even getting close to the real story.

FYI, there are 2 things that you CAN believe: they have quarantined 50 million people with their armed forces; and they have started construction on 2 hospitals that are to be completed in 10 days. Who does that for a simple flu bug? Something else is going on - no one does these things for fun, or to show that they CAN be done. Their government knows something that we do not, and that something is scaring the ever-living crap out of them.


238 posted on 01/29/2020 8:00:15 AM PST by Ancesthntr ("The right to buy weapons is the right to be free." A. E. van Vogt, The Weapons Shops of Isher)
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To: BusterDog

Live WHO presser now:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lKdIvoik-bQ&feature=emb_logo


239 posted on 01/29/2020 8:02:21 AM PST by BusterDog
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To: bgill
"(CNN)A flight with about 210 Americans aboard will land at a military base in Southern California on Wednesday after leaving the epicenter of the coronavirus outbreak in China.

The flight chartered by the State Department left Wuhan, and will stop to refuel in Anchorage, Alaska. From there, it will head to the March Air Reserve Base near Riverside, California, where it'll arrive early Wednesday.

The flight was originally planned to land at the civilian Ontario International Airport -- about 35 miles from Los Angeles.

It's not immediately clear why the itinerary was changed from the civilian airport to a military base. Curt Hagman, a San Bernardino County commissioner who is on the board of the Ontario airport, said they were informed Tuesday night that the plane will not land there...."

https://www.cnn.com/2020/01/29/health/us-coronavirus-evacuation-wednesday/index.html

240 posted on 01/29/2020 8:02:33 AM PST by LilFarmer
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