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Modest Stand-Alone Audio Editor for Win 10 needed - Suggestions?
Me | 1/15/2020 | PaulR

Posted on 01/15/2020 6:44:16 PM PST by Paul R.

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To: Paul R.

??? I just downloaded Wavosaur. I use Win 10 Pro.. don’t know diddly about editing media files at all but I did flip a stereo to mono? Used Automation to play with volume... created loops... used an mp3 file to do this

Is the whole thing kaput ? or only pieces ?

hope you find what you need ...


61 posted on 01/15/2020 8:51:40 PM PST by stylin19a ((2016 - Best.Election.Of.All.Times.Ever.In.The.History.Of.Ever))
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To: kiryandil

Yes, it really is a great little program!

I just tried it on this netbook, same dang error message when trying to record. Lenovo N22, Win 10 Pro 64bit.

Windows audio settings here are a bit different than on the HP desktop - I’ll poke around a bit.


62 posted on 01/15/2020 8:55:40 PM PST by Paul R. (The Lib / Socialist goal: Total control of nothing left worth controlling.)
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To: usconservative

Doesn’t Audacity require that you download something called Lame to convert Audacity files to MP3?


63 posted on 01/15/2020 8:56:54 PM PST by Fiji Hill
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To: kiryandil

There are LOTS of things wrong with much of the music on YouTube. Some time back I was evaluating a new set of fairly capable looking (ie., rather big for the application - nearly 1/4 cu. ft. ea.!) computer audio speakers. I happened to play Black Sabbath’s “Fairies Wear Boots”. I was not impressed. But... suspicious, I pulled out my old (ie., before the “Loudness Wars”) CD of same, which is a GREAT recording. Now, NO computer speaker is even 1/10 up to reproducing that CD in all its dynamics and glory, but through those chintzy speakers, the result was clearly superior and much more dynamic from the CD than YouTube. Don’t get me wrong, for uncritical listening, quite a bit of music on YouTube will “pass” for many listeners. Heck, I listen there a lot, because there is so much content there hard to find elsewhere. But, YouTube squashes the audio - no doubt about it. Even my wife can tell the difference, and that’s not counting the many vids where the audio was lousy even before it was downloaded to YouTube, for one reason or another.


64 posted on 01/15/2020 9:13:15 PM PST by Paul R. (The Lib / Socialist goal: Total control of nothing left worth controlling.)
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To: Fiji Hill

It seems to me that is correct - at least in the past.


65 posted on 01/15/2020 9:14:31 PM PST by Paul R. (The Lib / Socialist goal: Total control of nothing left worth controlling.)
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To: Paul R.

OK, a coupla things.

It errored out when trying to export (convert) a WAV file to an MP3. Turned out to be missing a LAME Encoder. I found a reference to this error here: https://www.wavosaur.com/forum/export-as-mp3-with-lame-encoder-t292.html and was able to locate an Encoder here: http://www.rarewares.org/files/mp3/lame3.99.5-64.zip (just extract the file lame_enc.dll and place in same directory as Wavosaur.exe).

Now exports OK.

On the record issue I discovered that the built-in mic for this laptop was disabled. I re-enabled it and now I am able to record audio in both mono and stereo. I got the clue to try this from this page: https://www.wavosaur.com/forum/unable-to-open-audio-driver-in-t660.html

I hope this helps a bit.


66 posted on 01/15/2020 9:18:59 PM PST by rockrr ( Everything is different now...)
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To: stylin19a

It seems to be “bad” only in the recording end - see above- - and that’s what we mainly use it for. My wife gets a lot of her pre-school educational stuff off the web. Often the quality of those sources is a bit suspect (see post above), but she’s not playing “Fairies Wear Boots” to audio nuts!

P.S. It’s a really user friendly program, isn’t it? Really hits the sweet spot between semi-pro programs and dumbo-basic (”Sound Recorder”).


67 posted on 01/15/2020 9:22:02 PM PST by Paul R. (The Lib / Socialist goal: Total control of nothing left worth controlling.)
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To: Paul R.

It is user friendly especially since i don’t know squat about this. My better angel is the artsy-fartsy one.


68 posted on 01/15/2020 9:43:57 PM PST by stylin19a ((2016 - Best.Election.Of.All.Times.Ever.In.The.History.Of.Ever))
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To: rockrr

Thanks! The export bit is of no concern - I almost always save in .wav for quality reasons*, and I also have a program called “Switch Sound” to convert audio file types if I ever need to.

However, that mic enabling really does seem to be on the right track: I just couldn’t find any option to muck with such on my Win 7 Pro (HP6300) desktop machine**, and, in the past the program worked fine on same machine (and I know darn well I didn’t mess with those settings, but I also know from my audio-analysis-programmer buddy that sometimes updates do. I’d bug him, but he has more important things to worry about @ present.)

*Even .flac’s sometimes sound a bit “dry” to me. I know that seems impossible, but I’ve “spotted” such quite a few times before I knew what file format was on the USB stick... (Slight frown to buddy: “What file format is that tune in?”) As cheap as storage has become, there’s no real reason for me to use mp3’s.

**It’s a HP business machine - I don’t think they put great thought into people possibly recording with it! Still, it USED to work.

Lessee what I can do on this little Lenovo netbook...


69 posted on 01/15/2020 9:46:56 PM PST by Paul R. (The Lib / Socialist goal: Total control of nothing left worth controlling.)
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To: rockrr

Ok, I go to Options>Audio Configuration>Audio In and there are NO choices under “Audio In”.

IIRC (from some weeks ago) I think I saw this then.

This almost has to be Windows problem.


70 posted on 01/15/2020 9:50:25 PM PST by Paul R. (The Lib / Socialist goal: Total control of nothing left worth controlling.)
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To: kiryandil

FWIW, see my post 70.


71 posted on 01/15/2020 9:52:22 PM PST by Paul R. (The Lib / Socialist goal: Total control of nothing left worth controlling.)
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To: Paul R.

In my experience most desktop CPU’s do not have built-in audio microphones. But to be sure I would take a visit to Device Manager to look for any red flags.


72 posted on 01/15/2020 10:06:19 PM PST by rockrr ( Everything is different now...)
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To: rockrr

YESSS!!!

It took some mucking about in the Realtek Audio settings (and at first I was accidentally recording from the Netbook’s speakers into the mic - ugh! Talk about tinny!)

25 Or 6 To 4 is playing / monitoring, the Wavosaur level meters are bouncing, and PaulR is dancing around the kitchen!!

Wait - pause.... Oh, boy, that pork roast I started 5 hours ago is really tasting good... Take that, you blood stained Mullahs! (Oops, wrong thread!)

Thanks, FReepers! I owe you a drink, or something!!!

Now, how to do this on the desktop, because I don’t see an equivalent menu / options there...


73 posted on 01/15/2020 10:09:48 PM PST by Paul R. (The Lib / Socialist goal: Total control of nothing left worth controlling.)
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To: Paul R.; rockrr
OK. You might have it.

My "audio in" is my laptop's microphone app.

You need to go to Control Panel/Sound [icons view], and select the Recording tab.

74 posted on 01/15/2020 10:10:15 PM PST by kiryandil (Chris Wallace: Because someone has to drive the Clown Car)
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To: rockrr

Right. The machine does have front (and maybe rear) audio input jacks, tho’...


75 posted on 01/15/2020 10:11:12 PM PST by Paul R. (The Lib / Socialist goal: Total control of nothing left worth controlling.)
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To: Paul R.
Okey-doke, looks like you got 'er on that box.

 thumbs-up thumbs-up

I appreciate you putting this audio program out there. It's a PEACH - and not "peach foaty-five"...   winking face

76 posted on 01/15/2020 10:13:14 PM PST by kiryandil (Chris Wallace: Because someone has to drive the Clown Car)
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To: Paul R.

great...you got all of using this...I fall for eberything

https://www.wavosaur.com/forum/recording-input-t1712.html?highlight=unable open audio driver

and this, though looks like you’ve got most of it covered.

http://blog.wavosaur.com/record-what-you-hear-in-audio-output/

good luck


77 posted on 01/15/2020 10:17:02 PM PST by stylin19a ((2016 - Best.Election.Of.All.Times.Ever.In.The.History.Of.Ever))
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To: Paul R.

that should be

“great...you got all of us using this...I fall for everything”


78 posted on 01/15/2020 10:18:35 PM PST by stylin19a ((2016 - Best.Election.Of.All.Times.Ever.In.The.History.Of.Ever))
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To: kiryandil

Y’know, I did that (here in the Netbook), enabling the inputs and such, and that didn’t do it. But opening the Realtek Audio Manager did.

Unexpected bonus: The Realtek Manager allows me to adjust the input level in addition to the Windows Speaker level. That was one limitation of Wavosaur - sometimes an input off the web was, oh, 10dB low, even with the “speakers” at 100%. Now, I’ll bet I can blast those little 2.5” woofers right out of the Bluetooth speakers in the kitchen. (Oops, better be careful!)


79 posted on 01/15/2020 10:42:27 PM PST by Paul R. (The Lib / Socialist goal: Total control of nothing left worth controlling.)
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To: rockrr

Will do.

Now I have a really bizzare issue. You Tube is literally “slowing down”, with the video and audio playing at maybe 1/4 speed, and with lots of distortion. I exited Wavosaur - no change - so that can’t be it.

What the heck???


80 posted on 01/15/2020 10:45:31 PM PST by Paul R. (The Lib / Socialist goal: Total control of nothing left worth controlling.)
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