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To: BenLurkin

Now wait a second here. If nothing can go faster than light, then how did those neutrinos get here before the light did?


2 posted on 01/04/2020 8:55:49 PM PST by ProtectOurFreedom
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To: ProtectOurFreedom

They took the express lane.


3 posted on 01/04/2020 8:57:17 PM PST by RandallFlagg (Fact: Gun control laws kill innocents.)
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To: ProtectOurFreedom

Pulses of neutrinos released before the “explosion” Just a guess I don’t know what kind of convulsions a collapsing star goes through. The electromagnetic spectrum is much more than visible light.


6 posted on 01/04/2020 9:03:12 PM PST by gundog ( Hail to the Chief, bitches!)
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To: ProtectOurFreedom

Along with the last light from before the star exploded.


7 posted on 01/04/2020 9:03:26 PM PST by BenLurkin (The above is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire. Or both.)
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To: ProtectOurFreedom
They didn't. Neutrinos have almost no mass, so they travel extremely close to the speed of light.
8 posted on 01/04/2020 9:03:49 PM PST by Widget Jr
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To: ProtectOurFreedom

Because they proceeded directly from the core at the moment of collapse, without getting absorbed or scattered by the outer layers of the star, without passing Go!, and without collecting $200. But photons are heavily scattered inside the star, and the expanding shock wave of pressure itself travels much slower than the speed of light, and has to reach the surface of the star before one sees it. (By which time the neutrinos are long gone.)

If you put a blasting cap inside the middle of a large sphere of explosive, you won’t see it the moment the cap goes off, but only when the shock makes it to the outside surface. But, supposing that blasting caps also made neutrinos (they don’t), the neutrinos would leave at the speed of light, and you’d see those first.


11 posted on 01/04/2020 9:09:35 PM PST by coloradan (The Enemy Media isn't chartered to inform but rather to advance the interests of certain elites.)
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To: ProtectOurFreedom
Now wait a second here. If nothing can go faster than light, then how did those neutrinos get here before the light did?

They were probably released by the dying star prior to the final explosion - presumably as part of its final death throes.
12 posted on 01/04/2020 9:10:35 PM PST by AnotherUnixGeek
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To: ProtectOurFreedom
Now wait a second here. If nothing can go faster than light, then how did those neutrinos get here before the light did?

The neutrinos are emitted right when the nuclear reactions go out of control in the core. The rest of the star is transparent to neutrinos so they escape immediately.

The light has to propagate through the mass of the body, most of which is opaque so it aborbs light and then reemits it. That takes time. In the sun I've seen estimates of thousands to millions of years for a photon to get from the core to the surface. During a supernova it takes less time because the driving force is the explosion's compression wave destroying the star which can take hours.

In a supernova, why do we detect neutrinos before light?

20 posted on 01/04/2020 9:20:41 PM PST by KarlInOhio (Cutest internet video: Charlie bit my finger. Creepiest internet video: Joe Biden bit my finger.)
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To: ProtectOurFreedom

They were blasted out before the light. They travel pretty fast as well.


26 posted on 01/04/2020 9:40:21 PM PST by Vermont Lt
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To: ProtectOurFreedom

That’s how they roll.


44 posted on 01/04/2020 11:02:47 PM PST by SunkenCiv (Imagine an imaginary menagerie manager imagining managing an imaginary menagerie.)
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To: ProtectOurFreedom
If nothing can go faster than light, then how did those neutrinos get here before the light did?

One would assume that the neutrino burst happend before...

49 posted on 01/05/2020 6:23:42 AM PST by Ouderkirk (Life is about ass, you're either covering, hauling, laughing, kicking, kissing, or behaving like one)
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