Posted on 01/01/2020 1:05:44 PM PST by CondoleezzaProtege
True New Testament Church History is the Story of Anti-Catholicism
Dr. Peter S. Ruckman in his 2-volume work, “The History of The New Testament Church.”
Most of Hitler’s staff, and the commandants of the extermination camps were Roman Catholics.
Not a one of them have been excommunicated. Hmmm?
There is absolutely no way under either Catholicism or Protestantism that an idea like freedom of religion is allowed. That comes straight from the enlightenment from which our founding fathers were heavily influenced.
History, I believe, furnishes no example of a priest-ridden people maintaining a free civil government. This marks the lowest grade of ignorance of which their civil as well as religious leaders will always avail themselves for their own purposes.
Thomas Jefferson
The legitimate powers of government extend to such acts only as are injurious to others. But it does me no injury for my neighbor to say there are twenty gods, or no god. It neither picks my pocket nor breaks my leg.
Thomas Jefferson
I’ve been saying that for years. Seemingly the Rio Grande is the divider between Protestant/prosperity/freedoms and Catholic/poverty/crooked governments.
Both North & South Americas started out with similar resources and opportunities.
Every time we watch a Mafia movie and a gangster goes to confession, my wife remarks that the Catholic faith encourages law breaking and corruption. Just go clear your conscience with a good confession, and go out and murder someone else.
I do not necessarily agree with her, but my beef has to do with unchecked homosexuality/child molesting going on there.
The primary concepts influencing the American formation of govt as opposed to say...post-revolutionary France, were:
1) The fallenness of human nature due to original sin. It is belief in this fallen nature of man that precludes the need for all the checks and balances in our government. Our founders had many debates among them but the ones who won out held an inherent distrust of any concentration of power be within a single individual or a mob, and: a resistance to a guiding, Marxist utopian principle. There is no such thing as heaven on earth. It is impossible because man is not perfectible.
2) Man’s imperfectability surmises the need for the Rule of Law, lest anarchy give way. The laws that restrain the worst of our human impulses are grounded in the eternal statutes of God.
2) The belief that man’s dignity is rooted in his image-bearing of Our Creator, God.
All very Christian concepts.
It really becomes tortured to follow without going really?...
Blessings to everyones path, but the pain inflicted on many of it’s own in history and folks who dared have their own interpretation is still ongoing, which one is it?
Christ said the birds of the field don’t sow or reap for food why does man of little faith...I see no church with that faith or direction, back to Eden, alpha Omega..His words return to Him..
so the point is if man will not follow God and wants to declare himself righteous and blame everyone else as evil,,,some are...that is the true reversal of good to bad, trade in man’s reality for God’s, ignore the dying planet as long as we live “our lives” never heed Christ words, and call the earth/ concrete block golden calf/ Babylon the ho God’s way..are we getting closer? Who is saying this in amoung the priest amoung the ministers, no one, that level of faith is not imagined, it will be required eventually to learn balance..Come Lord
The primary concepts influencing the American formation of govt as opposed to say...post-revolutionary France, were:
1) The fallenness of human nature due to original sin. It is belief in this fallen nature of man that precedes (not precludes, sorry typo) the need for all the checks and balances in our government.
- Our founders had many debates among them, but the ones who won out held an inherent distrust of any concentration of power be within a single individual or a mob. There was also resistance to any guiding, Marxist (or pre-Marxist) utopian principle. Why? Because there is no such thing as heaven on earth. It is impossible to set up because man is not perfectible.
2) Man’s imperfectability attests to the need for the Rule of Law, lest anarchy give way. The laws that restrain the worst of our human impulses are grounded in the eternal statutes of God.
3) The belief that man’s dignity is rooted in his image-bearing of Our Creator, God, is fundamental to our concept of rights and equal justice.
All very Christian concepts.
(This was re-typed with typos corrected and some additions made.)
Or if you’re protestant, you don’t have to go to confession or show contrition, cause, don’t you know all your future sins are already forgiven?
There are sexual molesters in all of them, see the Baptist Church as an example. There are roughly three times as many Catholic priests in the US as Baptist ministers, the baptist current scandal includes somewhere around 400 accused abusers.
So what? Someone once said “the poor will always be with us” when he was accused of the same thing by a ‘holy’ man named Judas. Just saying....
Debunk all you want, it can’t change the fact that the current pope is an idolator. He doesn’t believe that Christ is the only path to salvation. ~~He is not even a Christian as far as I am concerned.
So remove the log in your eye before you remove the mote in mine.
Much of the liberty we enjoy derives from removing religion altogether from public life; while nominally “Christian”, there is no indication Christianity drove “Manifest Destiny” or the Monroe Doctrine.
It would have been different if France or Spain founded it, until today when we are in much the same place politically as both of them (socialist policies coupled with negative birthrates, with religion completely removed from the public sphere).
The Inquisition viewed in today’s context is far different than the Inquisition implemented as Spain was retaken from the Muslims. The situation was hardly cut & dry - and Americans have much more recent examples of pushing “undesirables” out of western lands to create our new country.
Your oversimplification is precisely the kind of mentality that keeps our worldviews and imaginations hindered and juvenile. Be it of the past or otherwise.
There are 16 Centuries of Christian history to contend with before the Protestant Reformation even occurred! And Luther wanted to clean up the church, not divide and fragment it into oblivion.
Even Protestants today lament the sorry state of Christian art centuries of Puritanical iconoclasm hath wrought. Vatican corruptions not withstanding...and the Vatican was always corrupt, even as gorgeous masterpieces like Notre Dame cathedral were built. Designed in the first place thanks to the robust, Catholic and medieval imagination from which her beauty emanated.
You seem to think that Protestants are unaware of what happened prior to the Reformation, but the Reformation actually drew from the early church for its foundation. Furthermore, the Roman church has only existed in it’s current form since 1054, when it separated from its Greek origins.
The Protestant Reformation most certainly did NOT bridge the gap between early church and 1054 schism and only further de-Hellenized the situation.
First, are you saying that the early Reformers did not look at historical Christianity for its foundation? If so, you are uninformed of what they wrote.
Second, thank you for the tacit admission that the RCC in its current form started in 1054.
The Orthodox Church is more divorced from pre-1054 roots than the current RCC.
Actually, the EO claims the RCC has deviated from the historic teachings, especially with regard to the filoque.
The Other Catholics: A Short Guide to Eastern Catholic Churches
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