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Russia’s Population May Drop by 12M in 15 Years
Moscow Times ^ | Dec 28, 2019

Posted on 12/28/2019 8:54:07 AM PST by CondoleezzaProtege

Russia’s population could drop by more than 12 million by 2035, the national statistics office said in its annual forecast published Friday.

Russia’s overall population dropped for the first time in a decade last year, totaling 146.8 million as migration inflows hit record lows. It totaled 146.7 million so far in 2019, the State Statistics Service Rosstat said this month, as Russia experienced its highest natural population decline in 11 years.

Here are the three population scenarios that Rosstat predicted for the next 15 years. In all cases, Russia’s natural population is expected to continue to decline — meaning deaths will continue to outnumber live births.

Optimistic scenario: 150.1 million. Natural population is expected to slow its contraction from nearly 250,000 next year to 21,300 in 2035. Migration is expected to grow from under 340,000 next year to more than 385,000 in 2035.

Baseline scenario: 142.9 million. Natural population is expected to decline by more than 350,000 next year and almost 400,000 in 2035. Migration is expected to drop slightly from almost 265,000 next year to around 264,000 in 2035.

Worst-case scenario: 134.2 million. Natural population is expected to contract by 484,400 next year and near 1 million people by 2035. Migration is expected to drop from almost 191,000 to under 16,000 arrivals in 2035.

All the figures were revised downward from 2018, when Rosstat forecast Russia’s population to grow to 153.2 million under an optimistic scenario, 144 million under a baseline scenario and 138.1 million under the worst-case scenario.

Rosstat will not publish its forecast next year because of the 2020 census, the state-run TASS news agency reports.


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KEYWORDS: census; kievrosetroll; neocontroll; population; russia
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To: captain_dave
They are already working on it.

https://www-rt-com.cdn.ampproject.org/v/s/www.rt.com/business/433772-boers-sa-russia-resettlement/amp/?amp_js_v=a2&amp_gsa=1&usqp=mq331AQCKAE%3D#aoh=15775639955267&referrer=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.google.com&amp_tf=From%20%251%24s&ampshare=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.rt.com%2Fbusiness%2F433772-boers-sa-russia-resettlement%2F

America could do the same.

21 posted on 12/28/2019 12:16:16 PM PST by SmokingJoe
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To: CondoleezzaProtege

I thought the Muslims that are moving to Russia from the former Soviet Central Asian Republics, are out-breeding the Native Russians.


22 posted on 12/28/2019 12:19:14 PM PST by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: captain_dave

When the Muslims run the Volksdeutsche out of Germany, maybe the Volga Germans will return.


23 posted on 12/28/2019 12:20:36 PM PST by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: NorseViking
20 years ago I have barely anyone in Russia who aren’t an alcoholic by Western standard. Today you don’t see many people who are drinking any at all. Drinking is obviously out of fashion.


24 posted on 12/28/2019 12:21:42 PM PST by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: setter
Nmerous Russian women asked him to marry them while he was there. All the Russian men are drunks, drug addicts or have zero ambition or goals or butt ugly.

“ALL Russian men are “drunks, drug addicts or have zero ambition or goals or butt ugly” ?

You really believe that?

“He wonders how they are a threat to the world.”

This might be why:

New Russian weapon can travel 27 times the speed of sound

https://abcnews.go.com/International/wireStory/russia-commissions-intercontinental-hypersonic-weapon-67942398

25 posted on 12/28/2019 12:32:15 PM PST by SmokingJoe
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To: CondoleezzaProtege

26 posted on 12/28/2019 12:34:47 PM PST by McGruff (Does no one is above the law apply to Democrats?)
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To: SunkenCiv

The population drop will only be noticable in the non-muzzie population.


27 posted on 12/28/2019 1:36:55 PM PST by 353FMG
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To: jmacusa

“”””Alcoholism is rampant in Russia””””

That’s a tired myth. Not true anymore. Alcohol consumption is half that of the Soviet era and it is clearly visible.

“”””Russian women and Ukrainian women are desperate to get out of the place””””

East European dating is a very difficult matter and it tends to produce a lot of false impressions.
First of all unlike that of the West there is a shortage of men and surplus of women within populations in the East and there are also cultural stigmas related to the marriage with women belonging to certain groups, mostly latent feminists who are making the most “mail order bribes”. There is a reason why they aren’t married at home and it is more complex than “useless alcoholic men”.
There are definitions like: “deer”, “dudess pit”, “tractor-trailer” and so on related to it.


28 posted on 12/28/2019 1:49:31 PM PST by NorseViking
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To: SmokingJoe

“ALL Russian men are “drunks, drug addicts or have zero ambition or goals or butt ugly” ?
You really believe that?

Mortality deaths related to alcohol 30.5% in Russia 2012, In the US same year 3.2%.

Believe what you want. Yes the alcohol situation in Russia has gotten better in recent years but they still like their vodka. I believe my nephew when he said at the 10:00 break the men were drinking vodka in the break room along with the bosses.

https://qz.com/403307/russia-is-quite-literally-drinking-itself-to-death/


29 posted on 12/28/2019 2:37:33 PM PST by setter
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To: SmokingJoe

This might be why:
New Russian weapon can travel 27 times the speed of sound
https://abcnews.go.com/International/wireStory/russia-commissions-intercontinental-hypersonic-weapon-67942398

Their only aircraft carrier just burned up and their stealth fighter on a test flight literally crashed and burned.

I’m am 100% more worried about China as a threat.


30 posted on 12/28/2019 2:41:30 PM PST by setter
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To: setter
Their only aircraft carrier just burned up and their stealth fighter on a test flight literally crashed and burned.

All of which has nothing to do with the fact that they have some of the best anti aircraft missiles in the business or that they just deployed a Mach 27 intercontinental hypersonic missile, even as the US is still at least 2 years away from deploying a hypersonic missile.
Perhaps your nephew will explain how a bunch of men who spend all day drinking strong vodka, taking opioids and have no ambition, somehow still manage to come up with these advanced technological marvels.

31 posted on 12/28/2019 3:15:08 PM PST by SmokingJoe
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To: SmokingJoe

“Perhaps your nephew will explain how a bunch of men who spend all day drinking strong vodka, taking opioids and have no ambition, somehow still manage to come up with these advanced technological marvels.”

How does North Korea develop nuclear war heads and ballistic missiles with a economy a quarter the size of Rhode Island?

I personally don’t think Russia is a threat. China on the other hand has public plans under their 25 year plan that should frighten every country in the world.


32 posted on 12/28/2019 4:07:21 PM PST by setter
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To: NorseViking

Sorry bud the info I have on Russia and it’s alcohol and drug problems tell a different story as this article points out, it’s a country in a bad condition. Go to You Tube, if you don’t have a bias against that is and see for yourself.


33 posted on 12/28/2019 4:20:55 PM PST by jmacusa ("If wisdom is not the Lord, what is wisdom?)
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To: setter
How does North Korea develop nuclear war heads and ballistic missiles with a economy a quarter the size of Rhode Island?

Well no one is accusing the North Koreans of being drunk or on drugs all day or of lacking in ambition either.
Don't forget that North Koreans are basically the same people as South Koreans with their mighty, world beating firms like Samsung and LG. It's usually not a good idea to draw sweeping generalizations about any people like your nephew did.
Good luck to him if all these Russian women were throwing themselves at him. No disrespect meant, but did it occur to him that maybe, just maybe, the ladies wanted to marry him to get a Green Card to the US?

34 posted on 12/28/2019 4:32:27 PM PST by SmokingJoe
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To: SamAdams76

You’re right; our white population is facing the same decline. Schoolyards today are packed with foreign children; not a good sign for anyone interested in the historical traditions/legal setup of this country.


35 posted on 12/28/2019 4:42:48 PM PST by kearnyirish2 (Affirmative action is economic warfare against white males (and therefore white families).)
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To: SmokingJoe

“Good luck to him if all these Russian women were throwing themselves at him. No disrespect meant, but did it occur to him that maybe, just maybe, the ladies wanted to marry him to get a Green Card to the US?”

Women here in the US throw themselves at him all the time. Guy has the genetics of a god.

I think the US has equipment you and I could not comprehend.
We speak softly and don’t tout it. Russia touts their hypersonic missile due to short man syndrome. That’s all they have. What good equipment they have they only have small amounts of.

From what I have read the Russian military equipment as a whole is basically rusted out junk and Russia could only defeat us if it went nuclear.


36 posted on 12/28/2019 4:52:58 PM PST by setter
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To: jmacusa

LOL. Bias thing is funny. Or you certainly haven’t been to LA of SF. But then YouTube might help.


37 posted on 12/28/2019 8:13:23 PM PST by NorseViking
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To: NorseViking

I have a sister-in-law who lives out side of San Fran. Says the downtown area is ‘’disgusting’’ Sad thing is though she’s a Democrat. And I’ve seen those You Tube videos. Hard to believe. The LA didn’t look like that when was brother was there. But then that was some forty years ago.


38 posted on 12/28/2019 8:19:09 PM PST by jmacusa ("If wisdom is not the Lord, what is wisdom?)
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To: jmacusa

But then try to find any inhabitable place in Russia in the condition of Gary, Indiana or like some places in Michigan with people living in such conditions and with such a drug and alcohol problems. Russia maybe has three crappy major cities but even in that cities downtowns are much better that that of SF, and hoods are in better shape and much safer too. You might argue that US has bad and good places but then the same applies to elsewhere.


39 posted on 12/28/2019 8:30:20 PM PST by NorseViking
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To: setter

“” “” I think the US has equipment you and I could not comprehend.
We speak softly and don’t tout it. Russia touts their hypersonic missile due to short man syndrome. That’s all they have. What good equipment they have they only have small amounts of.

From what I have read the Russian military equipment as a whole is basically rusted out junk and Russia could only defeat us if it went nuclear.”” “”

That’s a difference in doctrines. They are primarily developing nuclear deterrent and it makes no sense to be silent about it because it is called deterrent for a reason.
They understand full well that conventional forces won’t win a major war against a sophisticated opponent anymore regardless the funds you spend on it. They also understand that no such war would be conventional. Bright minds in US understood it too at the time but judging by that comment of yours it is a possibility that the sane times are gone.


40 posted on 12/28/2019 8:51:56 PM PST by NorseViking
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