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Study: STEM profs should give easier grades in order to draw more women into the field
College Fix ^ | December 19, 2019 | Daniel Payne

Posted on 12/19/2019 9:38:53 AM PST by C19fan

The authors of a new study suggest that science and technology professors should “equalize average grades across classes” in order to draw more women into those fields of study.

Inside Higher Ed reports that the researchers, examining administrative and course data from the University of Kentucky’s archives from 2012, found that students both spent more time on STEM courses every week—about an hour—and that they also got lower grades in STEM classes than in others.

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To: C19fan

And as a woman, I despise being treated like I’m only getting by because of affirmative action. I had the highest test scores in most of my math and science classes, even in college. And I earned those grades, d@mn it!!!!

Affirmative action is insulting. The only anatomy that matters in STEM fields is the brain.


41 posted on 12/19/2019 11:05:25 AM PST by Ellendra (A single lie on our side does more damage than a thousand lies on their side.)
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To: C19fan
Unlike lib arts "studies", one has to actually study to pass STEM courses. The facts presented in STEM courses are not really subject to interpretation so there is little wiggle room in passing the tests.

STEM used to be a good major but with all the H1B's flooding into the US it is not a good long term career choice anymore. Also many STEM jobs can be outsourced to workers in foreign countries directly.

These days I would stick with something "hands on" - like hvac or nursing.

42 posted on 12/19/2019 11:11:44 AM PST by bill andersen
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To: C19fan

The authors of a new study do not comprehend the base axiom of STEM: objective reality exists.


43 posted on 12/19/2019 11:12:08 AM PST by ctdonath2 (Specialization is for insects.)
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To: bill andersen
Unlike lib arts "studies", one has to actually study to pass STEM courses. The facts presented in STEM courses are not really subject to interpretation so there is little wiggle room in passing the tests.

I have a BS EET, not a EE. I had to take a college based physics course(no calculous). The course was taught by a Russian immigrant that thought everybody he was teaching were potential Einsteins. This guy was so far above everybody's head that 2/3 of the class dropped out after the first test. I hung around and ended getting an A. If I remember correctly, I didn't score higher than about 60% on any of the tests.

44 posted on 12/19/2019 11:40:17 AM PST by EVO X
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To: C19fan

LOL...when my (future) wife was working on a BS (and later PhD) in chemistry in the early 1970’s, about half the chemistry majors were female. I don’t recall them having problems with “non-dumbed down” classes and coursework.


45 posted on 12/19/2019 11:53:11 AM PST by Wonder Warthog (The Hog of Steel and NRA Life Member)
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To: C19fan

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46 posted on 12/19/2019 11:54:40 AM PST by Dick Bachert (THE DEEP STATE HATES YOU!)
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To: C19fan

Of course, dumbing down the curriculum always solves the problem.


47 posted on 12/19/2019 12:01:17 PM PST by Parmy
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To: C19fan

How about drawing more smart people into the field — both men and women?


48 posted on 12/19/2019 12:05:09 PM PST by MayflowerMadam
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To: C19fan

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49 posted on 12/19/2019 12:26:22 PM PST by aquila48 (Do not let them make you care!)
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To: C19fan

I have a BS degree so it’s kind of STEM-ish, I suppose. I worked HARD for those grades and did not expect to be graded on a curve just because I’m female. What a slap in the face — to think I can’t do math because I’m a girl. One of the things I always liked about math is — no gray areas. It’s either right or wrong. Doesn’t have anything to do with my feelings.


50 posted on 12/19/2019 2:02:30 PM PST by Cloverfarm (Pray for the peace of Jerusalem ...)
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To: Sacajaweau
Bless you! I'm a 70 year old male who recently retired from an engineering career. Along the way I worked with some women who had no trouble whatsoever carrying their own load. When I consider Admiral Grace Hopper and her tribe of women, I am certain they never needed lower standards in order to set new standards in computing. I encountered Dr. Donnamaie White who taught the engineers from Digital Equipment Corporation what they needed to know in order to make the PDP-11 come to life.

After a very short stent teaching in high school, I discovered that the girls do very well with engineering and math. Boys are too entangled with computer gaming to compete.

51 posted on 12/19/2019 2:51:54 PM PST by GingisK
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To: EVO X

My physics professor was a 26 year old with his PhD from Rice University and was just the opposite. On the first day of class he asked how many of us were going to to become research physicists. Seeing no hands he said great and proceeded to teach physics for engineers. He got in trouble for not “weeding” enough of us out.


52 posted on 12/19/2019 3:05:29 PM PST by shotgun
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To: rlmorel

I believe these programs are pushed because it is becoming clear the STEM fields will be the “good” jobs of the future; it is about wealth redistribution, nothing less.

Since the STEM push failed (the targeted groups - women and certain preferred ethnic minorities weren’t interested enough), I’ve seen an “A” added for “arts” - and I assume this was done so STEM money could be diverted to fake students in easy fields with no wrong answers.

The problems with STEM recruiting are the same which led to affirmative action in other areas for the same demographics (females and certain preferred ethnic minorities): They simply didn’t want to endure the training/schooling, then the work which tends to be much more difficult than the areas many were choosing (schoolteachers and such). If STEM fields would offer easier schooling, shorter work days for only 180 days per year, and tenure that guaranteed employment for life after a few years of service, I’m quite sure the targeted groups would sign up.


53 posted on 12/20/2019 2:26:08 AM PST by kearnyirish2 (Affirmative action is economic warfare against white males (and therefore white families).)
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To: shotgun

I don’t think it really weeded out a bunch of folks. They dropped the course after the first test so it didn’t hurt GPA. I am guessing they hoped for a new professor the next time around.


54 posted on 12/20/2019 3:08:47 AM PST by EVO X
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To: C19fan

As one who has seen how pathetically far college standards have fallen—in large part to make sure that “everyone” can go to college and stay in college—I am not surprised by this little tidbit in the story behind the story (https://www.insidehighered.com/news/2019/12/18/study-suggests-professors-should-standardize-their-grading-curves-boost-womens?utm_source=Inside+Higher+Ed&utm_campaign=9f02957c72-DNU_2019_COPY_01&utm_medium=email&utm_term=0_1fcbc04421-9f02957c72-198611657&mc_cid=9f02957c72&mc_eid=144e12a9df)

Students on average spend an hour more a week studying for a STEM class compared to a non-STEM class. They also refer to that as 40% more time. Suggesting that the average college student spends a whopping hour and a half a week studying for a non-STEM course and two and a half hours a week studying for a STEM course.

Is it any wonder that what we knew as an introductory algebra class, taken in junior high or at latest as a freshman in high school, is now known as “college algebra”?

And of course as more students are drawn into STEM courses that are mandated to sustain higher grades given, the content and standards of those classes will necessarily be dropped lower. Then still more marginal students will take them and they will be dropped lower still.

Expect more bridges and buildings to fail by, what, 2030?


55 posted on 12/20/2019 3:34:17 AM PST by 9YearLurker
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To: rlmorel

It has killed higher ed as an institution, which is now full of minority and other kids who are being taught at the 7th grade level while they are under the delusion that they are doing college level work.


56 posted on 12/20/2019 3:36:19 AM PST by 9YearLurker
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