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New Yorkers elected DeBlasio. I hope they and he will wise up.

On the issue of reparations, if one asserts that whites today are collectively responsible for the sins of white slaveowners than 100 years ago, then blacks are collectively responsible for crimes committed by blacks. I don't believe in collective responsibility, but if one does, it cuts both ways.

1 posted on 12/15/2019 3:40:19 PM PST by karpov
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roving bands of ­violent youths
2 posted on 12/15/2019 3:53:00 PM PST by yesthatjallen
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This is DeBlasio’s doing along with the city council. I wonder if they even see this as a problem or just deserts for their warped view of past sins?


3 posted on 12/15/2019 3:54:19 PM PST by Truth29
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Who’s doing the gripping?

Haven’t there been very significant changes in NYPD patrol and detain policies since DeBlasio took office?


4 posted on 12/15/2019 3:55:38 PM PST by Steely Tom ([Seth Rich] == [the Democrats' John Dean])
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The ‘hood is not fully subscribed to Suzuki lessons?

They are not hooked on violins?


5 posted on 12/15/2019 3:57:11 PM PST by Paladin2
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"On the issue of reparations, if one asserts that whites today are collectively responsible for the sins of white slaveowners than 100 years ago, then blacks are collectively responsible for crimes committed by blacks. I don't believe in collective responsibility, but if one does, it cuts both ways. "

An extremely salient point...

6 posted on 12/15/2019 3:58:36 PM PST by Paladin2
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first of all, slavery ended 150 yrs ago, was done by a tiny minority of people and I thought the ex slaves already got the mule and $40....

and no black alive today was ever a slave and neither were there parents and probably not grandparents...

I too do not believe in collective responsibility....

but there is really no need to sugar coat anything....we know who is doing the violence, and who are acting like the sacrificial lambs.....

if one is going to a crime ridden park at least be prepared to defend your self instead of letting ferals steal outright from you....

where is the pride?....

7 posted on 12/15/2019 4:02:03 PM PST by cherry
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This is not to you about the article writer cited.

I’m not going to let something just go past in that article.

We are not allowed to say many things because of Political Correctness and our loss of Freedom of Speech. Why should a newspaper writer be given free reign?

To allow an article to call the experienced criminals who allegedly committed violent crimes ‘boys” and “kids” is wrong.

Victims of muggings cannot get back their sense of security and often have flashbacks.

Women especially. I knew a student assistant at the university where I worked and she trembled remembering the night a group of 6-8 juveniles grabbed her, fondled her, beat her and she knows were about to rape her when she and they heard someone coming. They scrambled away. No suspects.
She had to spend all night in the hospital with her head propped upward on an awkward U-shaped device in case there was bleeding in her brain. She said it was like being tortured all night long.

People are raped, beaten, robbed and sometimes killed by juveniles. Trivializing these crimes is wrong and journalistc malpractice, in my opinion.

I will accept juvenile offenders or simply juveniles. Or accused or alleged of these.

To be a victim of a juvenile offender hurts decidedly as much as of an adult one.


8 posted on 12/15/2019 4:05:41 PM PST by frank ballenger (End vote fraud & harvesting,non-citizen voting & leftist media news censorsheip or we are finished.)
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Violence causes crime.

Guns cause crime.

Ban nouns!


10 posted on 12/15/2019 4:23:21 PM PST by cgbg (The Democratic Party is morphing into the Donner Party)
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And her tool Charlottesville parents let her go there. Oh yoo hoo grief stricken parents...what’s wrong with the U of Va vs the filthy communist big city of New York?


11 posted on 12/15/2019 6:24:32 PM PST by Bonemaker (invictus maneo)
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“On the issue of reparations, if one asserts that whites today are collectively responsible for the sins of white slaveowners than 100 years ago, then blacks are collectively responsible for crimes committed by blacks. I don’t believe in collective responsibility, but if one does, it cuts both ways.”

My FRiend, i’m gonna steal that thought. And use it.


12 posted on 12/15/2019 6:28:45 PM PST by BigpapaBo (If it don't kill you it'll make you _________!)
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And her tool Charlottesville parents let her go there. Oh yoo hoo grief stricken parents...what’s wrong with the U of Va vs the filthy communist big city of New York?


13 posted on 12/15/2019 6:38:32 PM PST by Bonemaker (invictus maneo)
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I don't believe in collective responsibility

Collective responsibility is a fact of life. The disparate administration of justice should cause the black community to unite and demand justice for all victims, not just blacks. But that never happens. Their silence is assent.

OJ got off because black jurors cared nothing about two white victims.

The black community is on board with this travesty. They are quick to point out any real or perceived (mostly, fabricated) crimes against blacks. But, instead of getting all riled up about black on white crime; instead of forming protests for equal treatment for victimized whites; it's always crickets chirping.

And because of this, whites are more and more noticing that blacks don't reciprocate. Blacks are in it for themselves (as a community; as a demographic).

Whites are realizing that we're on our own and no matter how much we give to entitlement minded demands by blacks, it benefits us nothing. Because blacks will continue to murder whites and the black community is ok with that.

As far as reparations? I have no problem. I'll pay them myself. Just show me a former slave from pre 1865 and I'll gladly give him a few bucks. All others can go pound sand.

17 posted on 12/16/2019 5:30:08 AM PST by LouAvul
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