Pelosi ACA, "Are you kidding?" Video

7 Dec 2019

[rey]

Can anyone find the video of Pelosi (AKA Explosi) freaking out when a reporter asked if the Affordable Care Act was constitutional? Her response was, "ARE YOU KIDDING?!?!"

Funny how these negative videos are lost or buried.

[PGalt]

Can we parade around the likeness of her severed, bloody head for some comic relief? Um...ok

[rockinqsranch]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=08uk99L8oqQ

[rey]

You are outstanding, my friend!

[rktman]

You mean “Don’t mess with me!” nanzy?

[sauropod]

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[faithhopecharity]

of course she knows its blatantly unconstitutional
at its core

this explains her response

[RoseofTexas]

I’m stunned at the hypocrisy of the mediaVOMITS covering up for the witch!!! Lemme see here, SCHITt goes after a reporters phone records..crickets, plastic nasty Botox Nancy goes after reporter..crickets, trump tell Acosta to respect the office ..ALL HELL BREAKS LOOSE!! That’s why the mediaVOMITS HAVE TO BE DESTROYED by any means!! They and the liberal socialist left are killing America!! IT MUST BE BURN DOWN just to make sure!!

[Amendment10]

Evidence that Speaker Pelosi scandalously ignored major constitutional problems with Obamacare is towards the bottom of this post. (Look for Nancy.)

From related threads arguing that Obamacare is unconstitutional…

Regardless what the misguided, institutionally indoctrinated (imo) Roberts Court wants everybody to believe about federal healthcare programs, the court seeming “overlooked” the following from related threads imo.

It overlooked that previous generations of state sovereignty-respecting Supreme Court justices had clarified that the states have never expressly constitutional given the feds the specific power to regulate, tax and spend in the name of INTRAstate healthcare.

• "Congress is not empowered to tax for those purposes which are within the exclusive province of the States."Justice John Marshall, Gibbons v. Ogden, 1824.

• "State inspection laws, health laws, and laws for regulating the internal commerce of a State, and those which respect turnpike roads, ferries, &c. are not within the power granted to Congress [emphases added].” —Gibbons v. Ogden, 1824.

• "Inspection laws, quarantine laws, health laws of every description [emphasis added], as well as laws for regulating the internal commerce of a state and those which respect turnpike roads, ferries, &c., are component parts of this mass.” —Justice Barbour, New York v. Miln., 1837.

• "Obviously, direct control of medical practice [emphases added] in the states is beyond the power of the federal government.” —Linder v. United States, 1925.

• ”From the accepted doctrine that the United States is a government of delegated powers, it follows that those not expressly granted, or reasonably to be implied from such as are conferred, are reserved to the states, or to the people. To forestall any suggestion to the contrary, the Tenth Amendment was adopted. The same proposition, otherwise stated, is that powers not granted are prohibited [emphasis added].” —United States v. Butler, 1936.

In fact, the congressional record shows that Rep. John Bingham, a constitutional lawmaker, had clarified that the Founding States had left the care of the people uniquely to the states, not the federal government.

”... the care of the property, the liberty, and the life of the citizen, under the solemn sanction of an oath imposed by your Federal Constitution, is in the States, and not in the Federal Government [emphases added].” —Rep. John Bingham, Congressional Globe, 1866. (See about middle of 3rd column.)

Also consider that Justice Brandeis had reflected on Bingham's statement when Brandeis indicated that it is up to the individual states to experiment with the social spending programs, healthcare and retirement programs for example, ultimately depending on what the legal majority voting citizens of a given state want.

"It is one of the happy incidents of the federal system that a single courageous State may, if its citizens choose [emphasis added], serve as a laboratory; and try novel social and economic experiments without risk to the rest of the country.” —Justice Brandeis, Laboratories of democracy.

(Note that constitutional limits on states as laboratories of democracy is that states cannot establish privileged / protected classes or abridge constitutionally enumerated rights, and must maintain a constitutionally guaranteed republican form of government.)

So what happened to state sovereignty to establish custom state healthcare and retirement programs for example?

Using inappropriate words like "concept" and "implicit" here is what was left of 10th Amendment (10A)-protected state sovereignty after FDR’s state sovereignty-ignoring majority justices got finished with it in Wickard v. Filburn.

• "10th Amendment: The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people."

• "In discussion and decision, the point of reference, instead of being what was "necessary and proper" to the exercise by Congress of its granted power, was often some concept [???] of sovereignty thought to be implicit [??? emphases added] in the status of statehood." —Wickard v. Filburn, 1942

In fact, Speaker Pelosi seemingly took advantage of the scandalous, politically correct repeal of 10A by FDR's state sovereignty-ignoring activist justices. This is evidenced by her irresponsible (imo) ignoring of a resolution to propose a healthcare amendment to the Constitution to the states for ratification before wrongly ramming Obamacare through the House.

• H.J.Res. 30 (111th): Proposing an amendment to the Constitution of the United States regarding the right of citizens of the United States to health care of equal high quality

• Pelosi: "We Have to Pass the Bill So That You Can Find Out What Is In It” [711,470 views]

Had Pelosi instead upheld her oath to protect and defend the Constitution by leading Congress to successfully petition the states to ratify a constitutionally required healthcare amendment to the Constitution before helping to establish unconstitutional Obamacare, then I wouldn't be making this post.

Patriots need to elect a new Congress that will not only promise to fully support PDJT's vision for MAGA, now KAG, but will also do this.

The new Congress also needs to promise to work with PDJT to take all constitutionally indefensible federal laws out of the books.

Congress will also need to work with PDJT to decide the fate of people who are in prison for breaking federal laws that the corrupt, post-17th Amendment ratification feds never had the express constitutional authority to make.

Remember in November!

MAGA! Now KAG! (Keep America Great!)

[dp0622]

Everyone I know already knows Everything that the msm has tried to cover up and everyone knows the lies they try to push.

I’m 51 and I’d say that’s the average age around here or higher.

We’re the only dinosaurs who still use msm occasionally.

Everyone under 45 gets their info from youtube or twitter or facebook, where EVERYTHING comes out.

Heck Trump reaches 60 million people multiple times a day with the truth.

they dont need to be killed.

They’re dying quickly.

Or Trump wouldn’t have won. And he would have been destroyed by now in his Presidency.

But he has a HUGE platform in twitter and the people get LOTS of information about the lies the left spews.

[Brian Griffin]

preexisting condition ~= takes an expensive drug, takes illegal drugs often, or has severe mental condition not responsive to drugs

The purpose of the PPACA was and is prop up Big Pharma. It is constitutional as per the Commerce Clause.

The University of California at San Francisco is a leading center for drug development and it is in Nancy’s district.

Nancy Pelosi smiled more than anyone else when the PPACA became law.

[Brian Griffin]

“direct control of medical practice in the states is beyond the power of the federal government”

Most doctors are in the business of writing prescriptions for pills.

Article 1 Section 8 gives the Congress:
1.the direct power to regulate the commerce in pills, and
2.the “necessary and proper” power to pass laws respecting the prescribing of those pills, including making sure sick people can afford to see a doctor to get a prescription for those pills.

[Brian Griffin]

Article I, Section 8 gives the Congress the power to grant patents on new drugs.

These patents allow new drugs to be expensively priced.

Sick people needing those drugs need financial help to pay for those drugs (and professional prescribing/monitoring).

It can be argued that subsidization of insurance is “proper” since insurers are better at buying pills than Uncle Sam would be.

[antidemoncrat]

When the queen demands silence, the Lame Street Media obeys. When the President asks for silence, the Lame Street Media yells louder.

[RoseofTexas]

Wow! Thanks for the reminder! As for the “kill” I actually meant other ways as bankrupt, homeless, penniless etc....THAT would the BEST way to get rid of them!!!

[Brian Griffin]

“take all constitutionally indefensible federal laws out of the books”

Feel free to post a list.

I’d whack machine gun registration (passed in 1934, just after Amendment XVIII, which might have allowed it, was repealed), Section 8, the Fair Housing Act, federal minimum wage laws, federal unionization laws, the NLRB, the EPA, the Clean Water Act and the Endangered Species Act.

[Brian Griffin]

“Section. 8.

“The Congress shall have Power...

“To regulate Commerce with foreign Nations, and among the several States, and with the Indian Tribes....

“Section. 9.

“The Migration or Importation of such Persons as any of the States now existing shall think proper to admit, shall not be prohibited by the Congress prior to the Year one thousand eight hundred and eight, but a Tax or duty may be imposed on such Importation, not exceeding ten dollars for each Person.”

One can argue that the first part of Section 9 indicated the Commerce Clause didn’t give the Congress the power to bar the sale of slave-made goods to non-slave states or to require slaves be paid at least $7.25/hour.

Section 9 probably only had the Importation Clause because of the Commerce Clause.

[dp0622]

Homeless and penniless :)

you play for keeps!

Sounds good to me.

[BlueLancer]

My question for her would be:

If ACA is so great, why aren't members of Congress required to be covered by it?

[Amendment10]

"It is constitutional as per the Commerce Clause."

Thank you for your patience with this discussion.

Again, FDR’s state sovereignty-ignoring activist justices wrongly ignored previous Supreme Court clarification of the already reasonably clear interpretation of the Commerce Clause, that the Founding States never gave the feds the specific power to stick their big noses (my wording) into the affairs of the sovereign states, when the justices scandalously decided Wickard v. Filburn in Congress’s favor imo.

• "Article I, Section 8, Clause 3: To regulate Commerce with foreign Nations, and among the several States, and with the Indian Tribes; "

• "State inspection laws, health laws, and laws for regulating the internal commerce of a State, and those which respect turnpike roads, ferries, &c. are not within the power granted to Congress [emphases added]." -Gibbons v. Ogden, 1824.

Note that the Supreme Court’s clarifications that the Founding States never gave the feds the specific powers to regulate either INTRAstate healthcare or intrastate commerce appear consecutively in the same sentence!

So in order for the federal government to establish national healthcare like Obamacare, the states must first appropriately amend the Constitution to give the feds the specific power to do so, something that the states have never done.

”From the accepted doctrine that the United States is a government of delegated powers, it follows that those not expressly granted, or reasonably to be implied from such as are conferred, are reserved to the states, or to the people. To forestall any suggestion to the contrary, the Tenth Amendment was adopted. The same proposition, otherwise stated, is that powers not granted are prohibited [emphasis added].” —United States v. Butler, 1936.

Again, Obamacare is unconstitutional (imo) because Speaker Pelosi seemingly tried to pull a fast one by scandalously (imo) ignoring a formal resolution to petition the states for a healthcare amendment to the Constitution.

H.J.Res. 30 (111th): Proposing an amendment to the Constitution of the United States regarding the right of citizens of the United States to health care of equal high quality

If she had followed through with the resolution, and the states had ratified the proposed healthcare amendment, then we wouldn’t be having this discussion.

The problem remains that the states probably cannot find the revenues that they need to establish all the 10th Amendment-based social spending programs that their respective citizens want because the post-17th Amendment ratification, unconstitutionally big federal government keeps stealing state revenues in the form of unconstitutional federal taxes, taxes that Congress cannot justify under its constitutional Article I, Section 8-limited powers.

"Congress is not empowered to tax for those purposes which are within the exclusive province of the States.” —Justice John Marshall, Gibbons v. Ogden, 1824.

Patriots need to fix this situation by electing a new patriot Congress in the 2020 elections that will not only fully support PDJT’s vision for MAGA, now KAG, but will also do this.

New patriot lawmakers also need to support PDJT in putting a stop to unconstitutional federal taxes, taxes that Congress cannot justify under its constitutional Article I, Section 8-limited powers, and surrender state powers that the feds have been stealing from the states back to the states.

And to make such changes permanent, patriots need to further support PDJT in leading the states to repeal the 16th and ill-conceived 17th Amendments.

Remember in November!

MAGA! Now KAG! (Keep America Great!)