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Nope, China isn’t celebrating its big win in international test scores. Here’s why
InkStone News ^ | 12/04/2019 | Qin Chen

Posted on 12/04/2019 4:10:48 PM PST by SeekAndFind

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1 posted on 12/04/2019 4:10:48 PM PST by SeekAndFind
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The participants of the PISA tests represented the wealthiest parts of China. Critics say this means the Pisa results did not represent the entire country.
2 posted on 12/04/2019 4:11:40 PM PST by SeekAndFind (look at Michigan, it will)
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Because they flunked words beginning with the letter L?


3 posted on 12/04/2019 4:13:50 PM PST by dsrtsage (Complexity is merely simplicity lacking imagination)
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To: SeekAndFind

If anyone thinks any foreign company or group is going to be allowed to conduct a free, unbiased mass survey, poll or measure of the Chinese population, they are a fool.

For obvious political and power reasons, the Chinese Government will never allow such thing. If such a survey is allowed, it will be under their watchful eyes and “partnership.” Local officials, to avoid being embarrassed, will make sure the right schools and right students are involved.


4 posted on 12/04/2019 4:16:48 PM PST by PGR88
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To: SeekAndFind

“In recent years, China has been trying to reignite education reforms that emphasize creative thinking and life skills over test-preparation.”

Ha. That’s good news for us.


5 posted on 12/04/2019 4:25:03 PM PST by JPJones (More Tariffs, less income tax.)
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China will never be able to beat our diversity.


6 posted on 12/04/2019 4:38:59 PM PST by sphinx
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[“In recent years, China has been trying to reignite education reforms that emphasize creative thinking and life skills over test-preparation.”

Ha. That’s good news for us.]


The crackdown on corruption, while limited to Xi’s rivals and their supporters, has narrowed the scope for handing out admissions at elite colleges to the children of Xi’s flunkies, regardless of ability. So they’re now looking for a way to cheat. What better way than via a requirement for personal essays and extra-curricular activities available only to wealthy Party royals?


7 posted on 12/04/2019 4:42:22 PM PST by Zhang Fei (My dad had a Delta 88. That was a car. It was like driving your living room.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Two of my daughters were part of a sister cities exchange and I can say with authority that the Chinese students that came to America did not behave like the other student nationalities. The Chinese students were not behaving badly or rudely, they were just very quiet and passive as if they had never had much free time while growing up for social interaction with their peers.


8 posted on 12/04/2019 4:51:23 PM PST by wildcard_redneck (If the Trump Administration doesn't prosecute the coup plotters he loses the election in 2020)
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To: sphinx
“China will never be able to beat our diversity.”

Don't tell me that you believe that leftist trope “Diversity is strength” because that is just a load of crap. Balkanized countries disintegrate via civil war, just ask the people from the Balkans.

9 posted on 12/04/2019 4:54:52 PM PST by wildcard_redneck (If the Trump Administration doesn't prosecute the coup plotters he loses the election in 2020)
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Chinese parents rate their duty to prepare their children for financial success much more highly than we do.
Different, not necessarily better or worse, ethos.


10 posted on 12/04/2019 4:59:30 PM PST by mrsmith (Dumb sluts (M / F) : Lifeblood of the Media, Backbone of the Democrat/RINO Party!)
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I think he was being sarcastic.


11 posted on 12/04/2019 5:03:09 PM PST by Amberdawn (Want To Honor Our Troops? Then Be A Citizen Worth Fighting For.)
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To: PGR88

So, you’re saying the Chinese collections of national test scores are guaranteed to be thoroughly cooked.
They certainly have the power to make that happen, and are not shy about wielding such power.


12 posted on 12/04/2019 5:15:12 PM PST by lee martell
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To: SeekAndFind

China reluctantly admits its producing test-taking drones without charm or personality. I’d call that progress.


13 posted on 12/04/2019 5:15:23 PM PST by BillyBonebrake
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Girls: China has fewer.


14 posted on 12/04/2019 5:39:04 PM PST by Uncle Miltie (Epstein didn't kill himself.)
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To: SeekAndFind

PISA shet test and fake results...


15 posted on 12/04/2019 6:06:11 PM PST by Starcitizen (American. No hypenation necessary. Send the H1B and H4EAD slime home. American jobs for Americans)
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“China will never be able to beat our diversity”. And our diversity gets us what in a competitive world? Lot’s of different food choices is all I count. Japanese lack of diversity never hampered their competitiveness. It will likewise not hamper the Chinese, and the Chines have 10 times the population of Japan.


16 posted on 12/04/2019 6:34:54 PM PST by JeanLM (Obama proves melanin is just enough to win elections)
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To: lee martell
So, you’re saying the Chinese collections of national test scores are guaranteed to be thoroughly cooked.

No one just shows up in China and starts conducting social research. Impossible. Its only allowed if its something China is interested in, and then is 100% on their own terms.

17 posted on 12/04/2019 6:55:42 PM PST by PGR88
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To: wildcard_redneck

Go to any where smart people congregate like medicine, science and even law and you will find Jews and East Asians very well represented. In fact, over represented.

Let’s hear it for Hernstien and Murray’s Bell Curve. The book tells us who the smart people are.


18 posted on 12/04/2019 6:56:34 PM PST by icclearly
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To: lee martell

[So, you’re saying the Chinese collections of national test scores are guaranteed to be thoroughly cooked.
They certainly have the power to make that happen, and are not shy about wielding such power.]


Social research results are considered a state secret. Some guy who leaked economic numbers got many years in prison. Basically, if the Party doesn’t consider it important, you don’t get to do it, whether you’re Chinese or foreign. And if it’s considered important and something that will be made public, it’s gonna be cooked, just to ensure the Party is depicted in a positive light. I’m not saying that faking numbers is unique to the Chinese Communist Party. But its record of manipulation is consistent to a fault.


19 posted on 12/04/2019 7:41:47 PM PST by Zhang Fei (My dad had a Delta 88. That was a car. It was like driving your living room.)
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To: SeekAndFind

These educators there are smart enough to realize engineering is all spur of the moment with what you’ve got. Not rote memorization

Think mcguyver. My nickname


20 posted on 12/04/2019 9:58:17 PM PST by Truthoverpower (The guv mint you get is the Trump winning express !)
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