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Why It Was Easier to Be Skinny in the 1980s
The Atlantic ^ | Olga Khazan

Posted on 11/29/2019 9:11:07 AM PST by PeteePie

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To: dfwgator
The Food Pyramid, and the whole “Fat is Evil” campaign.

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Exactly right.

81 posted on 11/29/2019 1:32:10 PM PST by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: bgill
And this:

"They were on the phone watching television but back then they had to get up, walk to the phone TV, pull the wire back to another room turn the knob and rinse and repeat for every call show."

The hardships of 'Boomer childhood. Made us tough and resilient.

82 posted on 11/29/2019 1:39:17 PM PST by Pelham (Coup d'etat tickets available, dial 1 800 Obama)
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To: TalBlack
"overweight Brit" Juliet Mills in Avanti, 1972


83 posted on 11/29/2019 1:48:36 PM PST by Pelham (Coup d'etat tickets available, dial 1 800 Obama)
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To: PeteePie

There is more truth to this than one may think, despite the liberal sourcing of the article.

Several studies have been done to explain the growing global obesity crisis and have come up with few answers. A UK study showed that people move around just as much today as in the 1960’s, yet obesity has grown exponentially since then. The same study showed that consumption of sugar was overall not much higher today than then also. Now the UK has an obesity rate only slightly lower than the US and it’s growing faster.

Obesity is not unique to America. It is growing WORLDWIDE. Several countries now exceed the US in obesity rates. These include several Middle Eastern nations. China has a rapidly growing obesity problem also. America, and the western world, uniquely have the POOREST people who are the FATTEST-first time that has happened. I believe there is a correlation.

It’s a problem nearly everywhere now.


84 posted on 11/29/2019 1:52:17 PM PST by Vaden (First they came for the Confederates... Next they came for Washington... Then they came...)
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To: Yaelle

If I crave McD I get the kid meal with a water.


85 posted on 11/29/2019 2:04:01 PM PST by yldstrk (Bingo! We have a winner!)
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To: Clemenza

“People were thinner in the 50s and were thinner in Southern Europe until recently and they “STILL ATE CARBS” you Keto fetishists.”

Why do you guys act threatened by us, after all, no one is forcing that lifestyle on you guys?

Is it because we eat meat?


86 posted on 11/29/2019 2:07:55 PM PST by BobL (I drive a pickup truck to work because it makes me feel like a man.)
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To: Seruzawa

“High fructose corn syrup. Nutrisweet. Sterile wheat. A plethora of additives that preserve foods so they will stay on the shelf longer but won’t. digest easily. The food is less nutritious than it was. It doesn’t satisfy so people eat more.”

Good, thorough, answer. The hybridization of wheat alone accounts for 90% of the problem today.


87 posted on 11/29/2019 2:09:02 PM PST by BobL (I drive a pickup truck to work because it makes me feel like a man.)
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To: Yaelle

Fast food wasn’t an everyday meal for me growing up. Nor for anyone else that I recall. And portions may have been smaller.

Soft drinks were made from cane sugar rather than the high fructose corn syrup that some suspect is a factor; HFCS replaced sugar in late 1984.

And the gut biome is the mystery factor. There is strong evidence that differences in gut flora can make you prone to obesity, or help you to be slim.


88 posted on 11/29/2019 2:09:21 PM PST by Pelham (Coup d'etat tickets available, dial 1 800 Obama)
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To: PeteePie

It was ok to make fun of us porkers back then. Motivational in many cases (well at least mine it was..).


89 posted on 11/29/2019 2:13:19 PM PST by jughandle (Big words anger me, keep talking.)
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To: dfwgator

One key word here: Sugar.


90 posted on 11/29/2019 3:27:18 PM PST by Clemenza
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To: BobL
Let’s call a truce and agree that SUGAR, specifically excess intake of it, is the likely culprit. Westerners have been eating wheat based foods for thousands of years, with mass obesity being something fairly recent.

I’m a fish, veggies, and bread guy. Enjoy your steak, just don’t get too preachy.

91 posted on 11/29/2019 3:30:27 PM PST by Clemenza
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To: Clemenza; BobL

“Westerners have been eating wheat based foods for thousands of years, with mass obesity being something fairly recent.”

For thousands of years, only the wealthy were immune from hunger. Poorer people might overeat in the summer months, but they would burn any fat buildup off during the lean winter months - just as deer do today. For most, “feast or famine” was a forced lifestyle.

My wife is from the Philippines. I lived there in the 80s. In the 80s, a fat Filippina was almost a contradiction in terms. They ate rice plus whatever fish, meat or vegetables they could get. My wife was 5’2” tall and weighed 88 lbs when she left the province.

Now the Facebook pictures she sees of family left behind are mostly chubby. Not all. She has brothers in the province who are lean as a rail. But the ones in the city have gained a gut.

My personal opinion is that people on the edge truly CAN eat just about anything. In fact, our bodies are adapted to ALLOW us to survive on a wide variety of foods. The problem comes when modern society allows everyone to live in perpetual summer - food-wise, at least.

I would then split the population into two camps: Those who never got fat and those who have been obese. The former can still get away with a lot on their food choices. Those who have been very fat will do better on a diet that prevents insulin-resistance. Keto or intermittent fasting will do that.

And in all cases, people can vary. So if someone is healthy eating a vegan diet, have at it! Enjoy! Those of us who do better on a high fat diet need to understand it isn’t a requirement for everyone. But it certainly OUGHT to be considered a valid choice - even if the American Heart Association & the Mayo Clinic say it is impossible!

I mean, really. Millions are doing good things using Keto and/or intermittent fasting. Why does the AHA insist they are fad diets, harmful to ones health, when so many of us are getting great results - AND have the numbers to back us up!

Seems to me the AHA and other “authorities” just don’t like having egg on their face. Or their plate...


92 posted on 11/29/2019 3:53:13 PM PST by Mr Rogers (Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools)
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To: Clemenza

“Let’s call a truce and agree that SUGAR”

50 years ago (based on what I know now), I would have agreed to leave it at Sugar. But today’s hybridized dwarf wheat is nothing like the wheat of even 50 years ago. Our bodies react to it no different than sugar, as insulin and appetite spikes...and today’s people show it.

We can thank this man for it:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Norman_Borlaug

To his credit, he ended starvation world-wide, but to his detriment people are much less healthy because of his wheat.


93 posted on 11/29/2019 5:27:25 PM PST by BobL (I drive a pickup truck to work because it makes me feel like a man.)
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To: PeteePie

Yep ... looks like they work for PETA with the “they are eating more meat...blah blah blah...treated with hormones...blah blah blah....

They never got to where even if they do the same amount of “exercise”, they’re probably not as active during the rest of the day...maybe Disco Fever was a good thing back then...


94 posted on 11/30/2019 2:44:23 AM PST by trebb (Don't howl about illegal leeches, or Trump in general, while not donating to FR - it's hypocritical.)
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To: wintertime

” disagree. Through brute will power for more than a decade I maintained a normal BMI.
What was life like? Answer:Daily, minute by minute Hunger **Hell**!
For more than a year, I have been on keto. NO more hunger! I eat as much as I want. I feel like I have been released from the The Hunger Hell Prison.”

And, 40 years ago, to maintain a normal weight simply meant eating ‘normally’, no need for screeching hunger. Food has changed since then, especially wheat. People don’t accept that and seem to want us to believe that Americans simply enjoy becoming obese and diabetic, now, when they didn’t ‘enjoy’ it in the past. Right.

Also, regarding the huge portions and super-sized meals - 40 years ago half of those meals would have been thrown out by the customers (mainly due to the strains of wheat used then...they would be filled up much quicker). So, perhaps, the reason that we have huge portions now is because customers DEMAND them.


95 posted on 11/30/2019 4:27:47 AM PST by BobL (I drive a pickup truck to work because it makes me feel like a man.)
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To: PeteePie

Read later.


96 posted on 12/03/2019 6:56:43 AM PST by NetAddicted (Just looking)
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