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Ketogenic diet helps tame flu virus
Medical Press ^ | November 15, 2019 | Yale University

Posted on 11/16/2019 9:27:13 AM PST by BobL

A high-fat, low-carbohydrate diet like the Keto regimen has its fans, but influenza apparently isn't one of them.

Mice fed a ketogenic diet were better able to combat the flu virus than mice fed food high in carbohydrates, according to a new Yale University study published Nov. 15 in the journal Science Immunology.

The ketogenic diet—which for people includes meat, fish, poultry, and non-starchy vegetables—activates a subset of T cells in the lungs not previously associated with the immune system's response to influenza, enhancing mucus production from airway cells that can effectively trap the virus, the researchers report.

"This was a totally unexpected finding," said co-senior author Akiko Iwasaki, the Waldemar Von Zedtwitz Professor of Immunobiology and Molecular, Cellular and Developmental Biology, and an investigator of the Howard Hughes Medical Institute.

(Excerpt) Read more at medicalxpress.com ...


TOPICS: Health/Medicine
KEYWORDS: dsj02; flu; keto; lowcarb
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This study slipped through the cracks in our now-politicized diet/nutritional world. Not that their finding was "totally unexpected", and lucky for that, for if they were actually expecting (and looking for) this finding as a benefit of Keto, they likely wouldn't have been funded.

Also note that this is off-the-beaten-path publication, which is probably why it slipped past the climate-change censors, who really, really, do not want anything published encouraging people to eat meat.

1 posted on 11/16/2019 9:27:13 AM PST by BobL
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To: AlligatorEyes; LouisianaJoanof Arc; dp0622; thesearethetimes...; jacquej; GnuThere; ...

LOW CARB / KETO PING!!!

Special things to ican’tbelieveit for forwarding this article to me for posting!

[p.s., anyone wanting to join, or leave, my Low-Carb ping list, just let me know, privately or publicly]


2 posted on 11/16/2019 9:28:35 AM PST by BobL (I drive a pickup truck to work because it makes me feel like a man.)
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To: BobL

Wow, didn’t expect that.

I’m in fuuuuull keto now.


3 posted on 11/16/2019 9:32:13 AM PST by gaijin
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To: gaijin

Nice!


4 posted on 11/16/2019 9:36:31 AM PST by BobL (I drive a pickup truck to work because it makes me feel like a man.)
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To: BobL

Not surprising,when i styaed strictly paleo for several years barely caught a cold when people around me looked to be at death’s door

Almost limitless energy...i remember on day i was hunting in the mountains, made a wrong turn heading back to my truck and wound up hiking 14 miles in pretty rough terrain at high elevation with gear, rifle etc in less than 5 hours and had i not figured out where i was was getting ready for another 15 miles to a place i knew i could get to and wasnt worried in the least about making it


5 posted on 11/16/2019 9:37:43 AM PST by Manuel OKelley
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To: Manuel OKelley

I can’t say I can match those results, but jeeze - nice!


6 posted on 11/16/2019 9:39:29 AM PST by BobL (I drive a pickup truck to work because it makes me feel like a man.)
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To: BobL

I’d be hard pressed to do it today...however muscles, genes and your body’s microbiome have memory and once you get to a streght/endurance point you can lose it and get back to it in a fraction of the time it took in the first place.

Put in the effort as early as yu can in life and so long as you work your way back to or past a previous plateau every few years it’ll keep working


7 posted on 11/16/2019 9:52:52 AM PST by Manuel OKelley
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To: BobL

“A high-fat, low-carbohydrate diet ...”

I keep hearing that eating like that is going to result in high cholesterol and triglycerides. I keep getting blood work that comes back with results that are more common for somebody less than half my age. The “fat makes you fat” crowd says that it will eventually catch up with me. I guess we will see.


8 posted on 11/16/2019 9:53:14 AM PST by cdcdawg (Which is worse: a government-controlled media, or a media-controlled government?)
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To: cdcdawg

“The “fat makes you fat” crowd says that it will eventually catch up with me. I guess we will see.”

Hopefully you are VERY PATIENT. Nina Teicholz has reviewed all of the studies and simply can’t find anything that confirms what the Left claims.


9 posted on 11/16/2019 9:58:18 AM PST by BobL (I drive a pickup truck to work because it makes me feel like a man.)
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To: BobL

The American diet is based on traditional practice. Our calorie intake is based on expected output of physical activity.

If you eat Like a lumberjack and work like a lumberjack... You will be fit. If you eat like lumberjac and sit on your ass all day... You will be unfit.

It is that simple..


10 posted on 11/16/2019 9:58:36 AM PST by mmercier0921
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To: cdcdawg

I was pretty strict paleo from 2009 to about late 2016

My blood pressure atayed below around 100/55, cholesterol was high but doc’s always said keep doing whatever you are doing

Read some of the newer non establishment studies on cholesterol and you’ll see that the link between cholesterol and heart disease is seriously in question


11 posted on 11/16/2019 10:00:04 AM PST by Manuel OKelley
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To: BobL

I eat everything that can’t eat me first. I have been trying to get over 170lbs since 1980. Constant physical activity allows one to eat whatever one comes across...

As he munches calamatra olive, smoked ham, grapes.. and oozo with Spanish onion and sardine. I do want some pig fat, but the wife ate all the bacon.


12 posted on 11/16/2019 10:08:41 AM PST by mmercier0921
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To: BobL

I’ve been binge-listening to this podcast ... it is EXCELLENT!!!

Low Carb MD Podcast
https://podcastrepublic.net/podcast/1441557261

Note: when I checked the link to make sure I was posting it correctly, I am getting a 502 “Bad Gateway” message & it’s the same on my phone. I also checked it on “Is It Down” & it is indeed down.The link has been working fine previously - I’m going to go ahead & post it anyway & hope they get their server issue fixed quickly.

Description
Low Carb MD is a patient-centered podcast focusing on weight loss, wellness and preventative medicine. The co-hosts, Dr. Brian Lenzkes, Dr. Tro Kalayjian, Dr. Jason Fung, and Megan Ramos will interview a new guest on each episode and walk the listeners through how they approach weight loss, wellness and disease reversal with their patients.

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My comments:

Both Dr. Brian & Dr. Tro have been on the weight loss journey themselves. Dr. Tro has lost 155 lbs & kept it off for several years. The saying “what has been seen cannot be unseen” applies here ... after seeing patients come off of insulin and other meds, like BP, they cannot go back to using “Standard of Care” approved methods for treating diabetics .... it makes them worse. For the first time in 14 years of practice, Dr. Brian has patients coming off of insulin/meds. It’s an exciting time in medicine as the door is being opened to a way to return people to good metabolic health. SO many good episodes ... Episode 25, Dr. Christian Assad was really good - cardiologist. For sure listen to #1 & hear why the two docs are doing this.


13 posted on 11/16/2019 10:14:27 AM PST by Qiviut (Support the country you live in or live in the country you support.)
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To: Manuel OKelley

I’m not even all that strict about it. I just keep carbs to around 20-50 grams most days, cheat on Saturdays, and try not to eat too much overall, and try to keep processed stuff to a minimum.

Every time I get some kind of health screening, they hand out a bunch of diet and exercise recommendations. I do the opposite of what they say to do (low carb/high fat diet and no “cardio exercise” at all), and they tell me to keep doing what I’m doing. That’s what I was going to do anyway.

Yes, cholesterol has little to do with it, and “cardiovascular health” is an area that needs a lot more actual study rather than more conjecture.


14 posted on 11/16/2019 10:24:28 AM PST by cdcdawg (Which is worse: a government-controlled media, or a media-controlled government?)
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To: mmercier0921

“It is that simple..”

Not really. How the body processes different foods involves different pathways. A high carb diet DOES work for a high energy lifestyle but it optimizes for processing sugars. A different path is needed to optimize burning stored fat.

Not a problem for someone who starts out fits and works very hard their entire life. A big problem if someone has become fat and now needs to lose it.

A body optimized for processing simple carbs will CRAVE those carbs. Frequently.

A body optimized for processing fat will relax because most people have stored fat - so the body knows it is in no danger. When you get used to burning fat, you feel an emptiness in your tummy and it is no big deal. When you are optimized for burning carbs, you get cravings long before you become hungry.

I don’t do a true keto diet. I’m just not that worried about some carbs. I use intermittent fasting to get my body used to burning fat, avoid simple carbs like sugar and flour, look for ways to add some saturated fat to my diet...and I’ve lost 35 lbs and dropped my unmedicated blood pressure from 155/100 to 130/80. Pulse remains around 60.

Hope to lose another 10-15 lbs. And yeah, I regularly feel hunger. Beats the heck out of cravings for sweets!


15 posted on 11/16/2019 10:26:55 AM PST by Mr Rogers (Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools)
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To: BobL

I’ve been wheat-free for 3 years. And I never get sick, but I rarely did anyway because I take one gram of C daily and have for decades....Wheat Belly diet is excellent. When I began, my LDL went down 40 points in 6 weeks and weight dropped 20 lbs.

The thing that works best for me is exercise. Go to gym 5x week, do a mile on the treadmill in 14 minutes, plus upper body stuff. When I sprained my foot and had to stay off it for an entire month, I got very tired, had trouble sleeping...feel like an old person for first time in my entire long life. Doc said that’s normal..body gets accustomed to exercise and has hissy fits when you stop. He also told me I’m very strong and will live to be 100.

I avoid prescription drugs...take low-dose hydrochlorothiazide for bp. It now is average for a healthy 15-year-old.

Diet gurus will NEVER take my potatoes away from me. Irish heritage, doncha know.

Veto!
(The Girl)


16 posted on 11/16/2019 10:27:22 AM PST by Veto! (Political Correctness Offends Me)
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To: Qiviut

Are these the same doctors?

http://www.lowcarbmd.com/


17 posted on 11/16/2019 10:27:29 AM PST by Dacula (Epstein did not kill himself.)
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To: mmercier0921

“I have been trying to get over 170lbs since 1980. Constant physical activity allows one to eat whatever one comes across...”

Actually, I know several people who struggle to gain weight regardless of their activity level. That is genetics.

Your experience fits you and that is great. I’m not in ANY way questioning it. But speaking as someone who has been fat, what I need is different. And yes, I’ve tried running 5 miles a day & weight lifting. Didn’t lose a pound.


18 posted on 11/16/2019 10:30:00 AM PST by Mr Rogers (Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools)
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To: BobL

5 years+ ago I went from my keto diet to my wife’s Mediterranean diet, which a modified Keto with lots of veggies, sea food, chicken and still minimal if any re carb intake.

We have at least one steak or smallpork loin roast per week to go with the above. We add couple of eggs per week to 3-4.

My weight and her’s has stabilized.

We noticed that if we have something like flu, we labeled it Flu Lite. It might last 2 days at the most.

Since we take the flu shots yearly, we felt that maybe we were getting protection from the Flu shots.

Maybe it is from the Med/Keto and the flu shots.


19 posted on 11/16/2019 10:31:28 AM PST by Grampa Dave (aIf we have a civil war, the winners will be our enemies: Iran, China, Mexico, & Deep State thugs!)
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To: BobL

This is not exactly the same as the old saying, feed a cold, starve a fever. But I think it rhymes.


20 posted on 11/16/2019 10:32:48 AM PST by Cincinnatus.45-70 (What do DemocRats enjoy more than a truckload of dead babies? Unloading them with a pitchfork!)
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