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Maryland and Virginia to rebuild and widen the American Legion Bridge, governors say
The Washington Post ^ | November 12, 2019 | Robert McCartney, Luz Lazo and Katherine Shaver

Posted on 11/15/2019 12:47:04 PM PST by Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Maryland and Virginia will partner to rebuild and widen the American Legion Bridge in a ­billion-dollar project to relieve congestion at the Washington region’s worst traffic bottleneck, the states’ governors announced Tuesday.

In an unusual example of interstate cooperation, Virginia has agreed to help pay for the project even though most of the bridge — like the Potomac River flowing beneath it — belongs to Maryland.

The plan marks a breakthrough in a years-long impasse over widening the bridge on the northwestern stretch of the Capital Beltway. In the past, Maryland has said it didn’t have enough money for the undertaking, and Virginia said the bridge was its neighbor’s responsibility.

The new bridge will have four express toll lanes, in addition to eight free lanes as on the current span. The tolls will fluctuate based on congestion, rising to keep traffic flowing freely.

Construction is expected to begin in 2022 and to be completed and open to travelers in five or six years, officials said. They said it was too early to say how traffic will be affected while construction is underway, but significant disruptions are likely.

Both states said the undertaking will be built through public-private partnerships, in which the government teams up with private companies to finance, construct and operate big infrastructure projects. Typically, the private consortium pays some of the upfront costs and shares the financial risk with the government in exchange for future toll revenue. In this case, both states said, toll payers, rather than taxpayers, will foot the entire bill.

Maryland Gov. Larry Hogan (R) and Virginia Gov. Ralph Northam (D) made the announcement in a surprise joint appearance at a regional transportation forum in the District.

(Excerpt) Read more at washingtonpost.com ...


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KEYWORDS: americanlegionbridge; beltway; congestion; construction; democrats; expresslanes; gop; growth; infrastructure; larryhogan; maryland; p3; ppp; ralphnortham; reconstruction; tolls; traffic; transit; transportation; virginia
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1 posted on 11/15/2019 12:47:04 PM PST by Tolerance Sucks Rocks
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To: BobL; sphinx; GreenLanternCorps; oldvirginian; Publius

PING.


2 posted on 11/15/2019 12:48:58 PM PST by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (Show me the people who own the land, the guns and the money, and I'll show you the people in charge.)
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To: 100American; Abundy; Albion Wilde; AlwaysFree; AnnaSASsyFR; bayliving; BFM; Bigg Red; ...

Maryland “Freak State” PING!


3 posted on 11/15/2019 12:49:23 PM PST by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (Show me the people who own the land, the guns and the money, and I'll show you the people in charge.)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

It’s a rare example of interstate cooperation???

How many places in America, are there bridges which cross from one state to another? Too numerous to count.

But in those places, haven’t the states involved worked out issues of repair and maintenance for such bridges?

It’s hard to believe cooperation with interstate bridges is so rare.

I stand corrected if it turns out states repeatedly battle over who pays how much for which repairs on such bridges.


4 posted on 11/15/2019 12:57:29 PM PST by Dilbert San Diego
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Another toll-racket begins.


5 posted on 11/15/2019 1:07:54 PM PST by fruser1
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

So Virginia can turn blue even faster.


6 posted on 11/15/2019 1:28:36 PM PST by Buckeye McFrog (Patrick Henry would have been an anti-vaxxer)
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To: Dilbert San Diego

The new I-70 bridge connecting East St. Louis, IL to St. Louis, MO had such a battle. It was originally going to be a 6 to 8 lane toll bridge, but Illinois kept bitching about how East St. Louis commuters would have to pay tolls to work in the more prosperous St. Louis, so an agreement was eventually reached to build a free four-lane bridge.


7 posted on 11/15/2019 1:29:53 PM PST by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (Show me the people who own the land, the guns and the money, and I'll show you the people in charge.)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

I have crossed that bridge numerous times over the past 30 years. The major problem isn’t the bridge as much as the approach from Tyson’s corner to the bridge. That, and the drivers whose previous driving experience amounts to driving ox carts through rice paddies...


8 posted on 11/15/2019 1:34:18 PM PST by Hatteras
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To: Hatteras
That, and the drivers whose previous driving experience amounts to driving ox carts through rice paddies...

LOL! Welcome to Washington, D.C. Where that driver tailgating you has no insurance and diplomatic immunity.


9 posted on 11/15/2019 2:18:14 PM PST by Buckeye McFrog (Patrick Henry would have been an anti-vaxxer)
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To: Buckeye McFrog

One of the two times in my life that I truly thought I was going to die was on the approach to that bridge from Tyson’s Corner. I came up over a rise and had to slam on my brakes because it was a parking lot in front of me that could not be seen from “upstream.”

I quickly looked in my rear view mirror and saw a Mac truck barreling down on me with no place to go. I blurted out “Jesus, save me!”, which was very uncharacteristic. I don’t know what happened to the truck, but somehow he avoided me and everyone else.

I was newly married at the time and was commuting to Tyson’s Corner from northeast Baltimore. We were expecting our first kid. I took it as a sign that God didn’t want me to make that commute anymore, so I found a job in Baltimore and have had reasonable commutes since. That was over 30 years ago. One of the best decisions I ever made to make sure my commutes from then on were short and safe.


10 posted on 11/15/2019 2:38:31 PM PST by scouter (As for me and my household... We will serve the LORD.)
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To: Buckeye McFrog

Sounds like the makings of a new Allstate Mayhem commercial :-)


11 posted on 11/15/2019 3:32:37 PM PST by Hatteras
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To: Hatteras

LOL!

When I was complaining about DC drivers to a woman who worked for the State Dept, she said “What do you expect from someone who has never driven on a paved road?”

Move half of the agency out of DC to other parts of the US...Problem solved!


12 posted on 11/15/2019 4:06:57 PM PST by lizma2
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks
There is a remedial problem on this bridge. On both sides of the river there are too many roads entering/exiting the beltway in too short a distance, most with woefully inadequate merge lanes. That leads to a lot of lane changing and turbulence. That stretch of 495 would benefit from dedicated thru lanes with no local exits from, say, I-66/Tysons to the 270 split. And much bulked up merge lanes. This would be akin to what has already been done on 395 through the Springfield Mixing Bowl and on the approaches to the Woodrow Wilson Bridge.

For a billion dollars, they'd dang well better include a wide sidewalk/bike lane as well, similar to the Woodrow Wilson Bridge. The American Legion Bridge sails directly over the C&O Canal and towpath and the Capital Crescent trail. It's just plug ugly stupid not to connect. On the Virginia side it should connect to bike friendly streets in McLean with signage to the several trails in that area. A river crossing is too expensive to waste. Get full value. Add a sidewalk/bike lane.

13 posted on 11/15/2019 4:10:48 PM PST by sphinx (q2)
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To: scouter

For the life of me, I can’t figure out why 495 in that area curve so much.


14 posted on 11/15/2019 4:12:41 PM PST by lizma2
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

I guess the wealthy members of the swamp won’t ever allow a bridge farther up the Patomac. All the traffic from Gaithersburg and north going to Dulles, etc. would no longer have to get on the beltway at all.


15 posted on 11/15/2019 4:18:37 PM PST by Freee-dame
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To: sphinx

Got stuck in Wilson Bridge traffic almost 30 years ago on our way to Dulles to catch a flight to Germany to have my 4 m.o. son Baptized by his Great-Grandfather.

When we got to Dulles late they said they didn’t have any more seats in economy, so they would seat us in business.

I think fondly of that bridge.


16 posted on 11/15/2019 4:24:47 PM PST by lizma2
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To: lizma2
For the life of me, I can’t figure out why 495 in that area curves so much.

Easy.

1. Terrain - I-495 is traversing a major transition in geography, from Piedmont to Coastal Plain aka the "Fall Line".

2. Pre Existing Federal Properties, Parks and Monuments. These are why I-95 doesn't go all the way through the city.

17 posted on 11/15/2019 4:28:25 PM PST by Boiler Plate ("Why be difficult, when with just a little more work, you can be impossible" Mom)
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To: sphinx

Bike Lanes! Seriously? It’s an Interstate Highway. It is illegal to ride a bike or anything else that can’t travel at least 45mph.


18 posted on 11/15/2019 4:33:00 PM PST by Boiler Plate ("Why be difficult, when with just a little more work, you can be impossible" Mom)
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To: Freee-dame

They can take White’s Ferry!

Poolesville has been fighting a 2nd bridge at Whites tooth and nail. They seem to have some kind of federally protected land that lets them stop it.


19 posted on 11/15/2019 4:33:50 PM PST by lizma2
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To: Freee-dame

The Potomac?

There isn’t another crossing because of the Enviro Terrorists.

A southern/eastern Bypass would be much more beneficial BTW, direct from Richmond to White Marsh north of Baltimore.


20 posted on 11/15/2019 4:36:36 PM PST by Boiler Plate ("Why be difficult, when with just a little more work, you can be impossible" Mom)
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