Posted on 10/31/2019 8:41:45 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
Well on our way to a third-world level country in education too.
Home school. Private school
The government has no business in education.
State politicians that spend millions buying new million dollar crony cirriculums every year is the problem.
I have tutored a lot of my freinds kids over the years in all levels of math from high school algebra, to calc, diff eq, Finite element analysis, statistics, and basic sciences such as physics, and chemistry, as well as a lot of programming. (Side note, moronials seem to be baffled at how I can “deny science). Anyway, I remember a particular time I was asked for help in how to graph rational equations... basically graph stuff like y = (x + 2) / ( x^2 + 3x + 2). Apparently he, and most of his class had been struggling with it for weeks. It looks scary, I know, but it actually is very easy to do this if you approach it correctly with a couple simple steps. Of course, I asked him to explain to me exactly how his teacher explained how to do this in detail. I received the most complicated treatIse of gobbledygook I had ever heard in my life and it was obvious why the class couldn’t get it. So I showed him patiently. Step 1 —-short simple and explanation why, step 2 and 3 the same. Every time I do this, on e they get past the not listening stage because they are convinced it is too hard and all they hear is static. Then they see you get the right answer in seconds. Then they all get that same skeptical look like you are somehow defying the laws of physics. Then they successfully do a problem or two while shaking their heads in disbelief and every one of them always sais “it can’t possibly be that easy”. Then they pull up harder ones to find a flaw or exception. At the end they are just stunned that something so impossible an hour ago is so trivial. I tell them to that to cement their knowledge, teach 3 of their freinds how to do this. They ask me why their teacher didn’t just explain it that way in the first place, I always respond that their teachers are democrats and an ignorant population is much easier to control
“New Math” and “Look Say reading” produced generations of poor heads full of mush.
Re the results of Commom Core:
Soupreyes, soupreyes!!
The US is ripening for invasion. Maybe I’ll take over first.
1 + 1 (15 CC steps later) = 4.
Yes, Common Core is bad - but the problem is not Common Core but rather the false beliefs that led to its creation in the first place.
In America, there is a widespread belief that if student outcomes are divergent that “the system is broken”.
Since divergent outcomes are caused by nature and not by methodology, and since divergent outcomes are documented and tracked more intensively than they have ever been, and since they have persisted despite “new math” and everything that has followed - the demand for, and velocity of, experimentation have continued to grow.
The “problem” that educational innovations are designed to fix - inequality of outcome - are not fixable. Not with money, not with buildings, not with breakfast, not with programs - not at all.
My late grandmother taught in NYC Public for 55 years starting in 1911. Her take on outcomes: “Somebody’s gotta clean the subways”.
Too bad they can’t put her in charge.
It’s creeping around here, too.
Note the title.
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Well, the ignorant kids are in luck - ‘universities’ are dumb-ed down, corrupt and filled with stupid teachers...
Bring back the 3R’s.
Has anyone at the NEA actually seen a Common Core math book? It makes things like multiplying a 3 digit number by a 1 digit number WAY more complicated than it needs to be.
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I have a 10 year old and I am dealing with it now. I help him get past it by making him do a lot of “rote math” (the stuff all the geniuses sneer at) and it makes the incomprehensible world-salad spaghetti-logic explanations easier to deal with. You have to stay ahead of whatever “lessons” they are “teaching” in common core math to make common core math easier to get through.
It’s unbelievably stupid.
Unbelievably unbelievably stupid.
“Maybe the problem is not what they’re teaching but who”
+1
My oldest Granddaughter is in an 8th grade “accelerated” program. She made the comment yesterday about she has some math homework she does not quite understand. After I told her not to be afraid to ask her teacher how to do it she told me that there is a continuous problem with this. Her teachers tell her that they cannot help much because they do not know how to do it either. “Is it common core?” Yes Grandpa it’s common core...
From related threads…
The kids could tell us that President Thomas Jefferson and Justice Joseph Story had officially indicated that the states have never expressly constitutionally given the feds the specific power to dictate policy for INTRAstate schools. This includes no power to implement things like Common Core.
On a few articles of more general and necessary use, the suppression in due season will doubtless be right, but the great mass of the articles on which impost is paid is foreign luxuries, purchased by those only who are rich enough to afford themselves the use of them. Their patriotism would certainly prefer its continuance and application to the great purposes of the public education, roads, rivers, canals, and such other objects of public improvement as it may be thought proper to add to the constitutional enumeration of federal powers [emphases added].”—Thomas Jefferson : Sixth Annual Message to Congress
"The power to regulate manufactures, not having been confided to congress, they have no more right to act upon it, than they have to interfere with the systems of education, the poor laws, or the road laws, of the states [emphases added]. Congress is empowered to lay taxes for revenue, it is true; but there is no power to encourage, protect, or meddle with manufactures." —Joseph Story, Article 1, Section 8, Clause 1, Commentaries on the Constitution 2
”From the accepted doctrine that the United States is a government of delegated powers, it follows that those not expressly granted, or reasonably to be implied from such as are conferred, are reserved to the states, or to the people. To forestall any suggestion to the contrary, the Tenth Amendment was adopted. The same proposition, otherwise stated, is that powers not granted are prohibited [emphasis added].” —United States v. Butler, 1936.
Note that the schools are probably following the federal dollars regarding adopting federal Trojan Horse programs like Common Core. But if school children were being taught the fed's constitutionally limited powers then they could also probably clue us in that career federal lawmakers do not have the express constitutional power to tax and spend in the name of intrastate schooling.
"Congress is not empowered to tax for those purposes which are within the exclusive province of the States." --Justice John Marshall, Gibbons v. Ogden, 1824.
In other words, funding-starved public schools that ignore their better judgement in order to satisfy requirements to receive unconstitutional federal funding are arguably recovering state revenues that the corrupt, post-17th Amendment ratification feds steal from the states, such revenues stolen by means of unconstitutional federal taxes according the Gibbons excerpt above.
Patriots need to eliminate the unconstitutional middleman, the corrupt feds, from “helping” the states to “manage” their revenues by supporting PDJT in cleaning up the swamp in the 2020 elections.
After citizens support PDJT in working with the new, post-2020 elections patriot Congress to put a stop to unconstitutional federal taxes, the states will ultimately find a tsunami of new revenues to improve schooling.
Remember in November 2020!
MAGA! Now KAG! (Keep America Great!)
And let's not overlook also cleaning up the state swamps in 2020.
"The “Holy Grail” of organized crime is to control government power to tax." —me
"The 16th Amendment effectively repealed the involuntary servitude aspect of the 13th Amendment imo, evidenced by unconstitutional federal taxes." —me
"Congress is not empowered to tax for those purposes which are within the exclusive province of the States." —Justice John Marshall, Gibbons v. Ogden, 1824.
"13th Amendment, Section 1:
Neither slavery nor involuntary servitude [emphasis added], except as a punishment for crime whereof the party shall have been duly convicted, shall exist within the United States, or any place subject to their jurisdiction."
"16th Amendment:
The Congress shall have power to lay and collect taxes on incomes, from whatever source derived, without apportionment among the several States, and without regard to any census or enumeration."
"The constitutionally undefined political parties are basically rival, corrupt voter unions, “union dues” paid by means of unconstitutional federal taxes.” —me
"The smart crooks long ago figured out that getting themselves elected to federal office to make unconstitutional tax laws to fill their pockets is a much easier way to make a living than robbing banks." —me
"Federal career lawmakers probably laugh all the way to the bank to deposit bribes for putting loopholes for the rich and corporations in tax appropriations laws, Congress actually not having the express constitutional authority to make most appropriations laws where domestic policy is concerned. Such laws are based on stolen state powers and uniquely associated stolen state revenues." —me
I am sure if we spend more money it will fix it. /s
Not surprised 1 bit. Our kids bring home some crap that is dang near impossible to figure out. We end up telling our kids the correct way to do math, and they are always happy with the results. Most teachers I’ve spoken to about this don’t like it either.
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