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Military has phased out the use of floppy disks to coordinate nuclear launches
Washington Times ^ | 18 October 2019 | Bailey Vogt

Posted on 10/18/2019 7:25:22 AM PDT by ShadowAce

The military announced Thursday it has retired the 8-inch floppy disks that were used to receive a presidential order to fire nuclear missiles.

Lt. Col. Jason Rossi told c4isrnet.com that it has retired the floppy disks used on its dated 1970s computer with a “highly-secure solid-state digital storage solution.”

The computer — called Strategic Automated Command and Control System, or SACCS — is an old system designed to receive nuclear force action messages and is considered unhackable because it predates the creation of the internet.

“You can’t hack something that doesn’t have an IP address. It’s a very unique system — it is old, and it is very good,” Mr. Rossi said.

The Department of Defense said in 2016 it would replace the SACCS computer and “update its data storage solutions, port expansion processors, portable terminals, and desktop terminals by the end of fiscal year 2017.”

The Air Force hasn’t shared whether it followed through on that promise.

While the system is old, the Air Force believes the age of the system makes nuclear launches safer, and a new computer system could jeopardize that.

“You have to be able to certify that an adversary can’t take control of that weapon, that the weapon will be able to do what it’s supposed to do when you call on it,” said Dr. Werner J.A. Dahm, chair of the Air Force Scientific Advisory Board, back in 2016.

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1 posted on 10/18/2019 7:25:22 AM PDT by ShadowAce
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To: rdb3; Calvinist_Dark_Lord; JosephW; Only1choice____Freedom; Ernest_at_the_Beach; martin_fierro; ...
Tech Ping

Thanks to Darnright for the ping!

2 posted on 10/18/2019 7:26:08 AM PDT by ShadowAce (Linux - The Ultimate Windows Service Pack)
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To: ShadowAce

Really??????

3 posted on 10/18/2019 7:27:42 AM PDT by rdl6989
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To: ShadowAce

That goes back to next gen after punch cards.


4 posted on 10/18/2019 7:27:50 AM PDT by DownInFlames (Galsd)
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To: ShadowAce

I’ll bet there’s still one test set at VAFB, CA using punched mylar tape.


5 posted on 10/18/2019 7:29:13 AM PDT by G Larry (There is no great virtue in bargaining with the Devil)
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To: ShadowAce

I feel better now. /not


6 posted on 10/18/2019 7:31:18 AM PDT by Drango (1776 = 2020)
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To: ShadowAce

Oh my god, Is this real? This totally destroys my confidence in high tech security keeping us safe. Anyone remember how little it took for these floppies to fail? This is something I would have kept a secret, little Kim is probably more up to date than this. lol


7 posted on 10/18/2019 7:31:23 AM PDT by Openurmind (The ultimate test of a moral society is the kind of world it leaves to its children. ~ D. Bonhoeffer)
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To: ShadowAce

“Lt. Col. Jason Rossi told c4isrnet.com that it has retired the floppy disks used on its dated 1970s computer with a “highly-secure solid-state digital storage solution.””

Sounds like some millennial convinced them to use the Internet (along with GPS) for our national defense.


8 posted on 10/18/2019 7:32:19 AM PDT by BobL (I eat at McDonald's and shop at Walmart - I just don't te Don'tll anyone.)
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To: ShadowAce

Are you frickin’ kidding me??? Floppy disks???? In 2019????
Now that I think it about it, they’re probably more reliable than a new thumb drive or SD card...LOL.


9 posted on 10/18/2019 7:32:45 AM PDT by lgjhn23 (It's easy to be liberal when you're dumber than a box of rocks.)
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To: ShadowAce

They’ve moved up to 5 1/4” floppies...


10 posted on 10/18/2019 7:33:44 AM PDT by Yo-Yo ( is the /sarc tag really necessary?)
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To: lgjhn23

I used to have floppy disk corrupt on me inside of one day.


11 posted on 10/18/2019 7:33:48 AM PDT by chris37 (Where's Hunter?)
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To: rdl6989

The guys on 24 hour alert listen to 8 track cartridges on their time off and use rotary dial phones.

Then the new 2019 computer systems arrive.

“Wonder why all 15 of the tech guys who came in to install them are Chinese. Every one of them.”

“Darned if I know. Ask the Pentagon. They did say the new equipment was all made in China. Like everything in the stores these days, I guess. And have you seen my Barry Manilow cassettes?”


12 posted on 10/18/2019 7:34:54 AM PDT by frank ballenger (End vote fraud & harvesting,non-citizen voting & leaftist media news censorship or we are finished.)
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To: Openurmind
"...destroys my confidence in high tech security keeping us safe..."

The old movie "War Games" was a good tale, but never possible.

Secure codes have to be physically delivered and two people twenty feet apart must execute the launch.

Outside of a petulant President _______ (fill in your favorite name), an inadvertent launch is pretty much impossible.

13 posted on 10/18/2019 7:35:11 AM PDT by budj (combat vet, 2nd of 3 generations)
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To: ShadowAce

At least they’re not using Zip drives.


14 posted on 10/18/2019 7:37:19 AM PDT by Fresh Wind (The Electoral College is the firewall protecting us from massive blue state vote fraud.)
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15 posted on 10/18/2019 7:37:34 AM PDT by bk1000 (I stand with Trump)
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To: G Larry

Wouldn’t doubt it although punched mylar went away in the 80s, early 90s. I was at SAC HQ in 85 when a problem arose with maintaining targeting on the Titans that were being drawn down. They did away with the ancient System 70 equipment that punched the tapes but there was another year left before the last bird came out of the hole. We finally found a tape unit at a test facility to punch out a set of target packages that would be used until the last deactivation. I was using the SACCS system before they went to the floppy disks. The point was not to have any outside feeds, only direct system to system. Better security.


16 posted on 10/18/2019 7:39:06 AM PDT by RJS1950 (The democrats are the "enemies foreign and domestic" cited in the federal oath)
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To: ShadowAce
Will the new system be able to play a game with WOPR?


17 posted on 10/18/2019 7:39:30 AM PDT by COBOL2Java (Hillary Clinton: Just like Joe with only half the dementia.)
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To: DownInFlames

I’ve used those on that system back in 1985. They were obsolete then. I wonder what a new 8” floppy cost on the most recent purchase.


18 posted on 10/18/2019 7:41:02 AM PDT by damper99
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To: ShadowAce
I would guess that they are using these:


19 posted on 10/18/2019 7:41:54 AM PDT by Fresh Wind (The Electoral College is the firewall protecting us from massive blue state vote fraud.)
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To: ShadowAce

And the leftists want us to believe that the government is going to give us the latest and greatest medical care. Why do I have visions of biting down on a stick while some butcher operates on me with dirty instruments and then flushes out the wound with moonshine?


20 posted on 10/18/2019 7:45:49 AM PDT by wildcard_redneck (If the Trump Administration doesn't prosecute the coup plotters he loses the election in 2020)
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