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A Florida inmate's secretly recorded film shows the gruesome reality of life in prison
www.roanoke.com ^ | 10/07/2019 | By Deanna Paul

Posted on 10/08/2019 10:09:14 AM PDT by Red Badger

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To: Steely Tom
LOL! And we're supposed to believe that none of that was staged? This gang member had a cell phone to film with for four freakin' years, and it was never detected? I find that hard to believe. I can't believe nobody ratted him out. Snitches are a dime a dozen. And if one inmate knew about the camera...they all knew. Like we're supposed to be surprised that inmates make, and carry weapons, get drugs smuggled in, fight, stab each other, brew alcohol, etc.? Hell, they were doing the same things back in 1980 when I went to work at Auburn prison as a new hack. The difference between the convicts then, and now is that back then, you had lifers who took care of business when the younger convicts stirred up trouble on the block. There were also less Hispanics, illegals, fewer gang members, and psychotic inmates than there are today.

I've always believed that prisons should be so horrible that no one would ever want to go back to one. But unfortunately, many are like college campuses, and convicts are consistently repeat offenders. Most criminals cut deals, which means they never do the time for the actual crime they committed.

61 posted on 10/08/2019 12:10:35 PM PDT by mass55th ("Courage is being scared to death, but saddling up anyway." ~~ John Wayne)
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To: Red Badger

62 posted on 10/08/2019 12:15:43 PM PDT by Yo-Yo ( is the /sarc tag really necessary?)
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To: Mr. K
"And guards ... generally not the best humans"

Sorry to burst your bubble. I'm a 72 year old female who worked as an Officer and Sergeant in NY State's prison system for 25 years. I was neither corrupt, nor sub-human. I was a divorced woman with two sons to support. Worked full time days, and went to school full time nights. Have a Bachelor's and Masters. I'm a history buff, and researcher. I never worked in women's prisons, only males, maximum and medium A - high security. I was the only female Sergeant in the facility, and got more respect from the Officer's because I didn't give in to the inmates like the male Sergeant's did. I retired in 2003, one of the lucky ones who didn't die while working on the job.

63 posted on 10/08/2019 12:20:53 PM PDT by mass55th ("Courage is being scared to death, but saddling up anyway." ~~ John Wayne)
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To: Yo-Yo

64 posted on 10/08/2019 12:22:14 PM PDT by Red Badger (Against stupidity the gods themselves contend in vain...................)
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To: mass55th

Thanks, I wanted your take on this.

Now that you mention it, keeping a cell phone a secret for four years does seem a bit unlikely.

Perhaps the story is just more BS from the MSM.


65 posted on 10/08/2019 12:29:37 PM PDT by Steely Tom ([Seth Rich] == [the Democrats' John Dean])
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To: montag813
"..I still couldn’t give one shit about these animals.."

Will you keep that mindset when the left eventually succeeds in their schemes, comes to power and then starts throwing "us" in there with them?
Just curious... d:^)

66 posted on 10/08/2019 12:31:01 PM PDT by CopperTop (Outside the wire it's just us chickens. Dig?)
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To: Meatspace

I see you’re still on the guards are drug dealers kick. You need to apologize to more than a few FReepers.

Ever heard of Sunday afternoon visitation? Mostly, their families bring in the drugs. My family of guards and wardens have never brought in any drugs.

Ever heard of guards going through inmates belongings and confiscating contraband?


67 posted on 10/08/2019 12:33:32 PM PDT by bgill
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To: Meatspace
“ It’s a freaking prison——what did you expect?

We should expect the prison guards to do their job.

 

I strongly suspect if they did - they'd get fired. So that leaves prison offiicals.

Who are caught in in the political system of not having enough money and resources. Which leaves taxpayers to cough up more and more tax dollars for inmates.

Which leaves YOU to do something. So. What are YOU going to do?

68 posted on 10/08/2019 12:35:18 PM PDT by Responsibility2nd
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To: Red Badger

In the late 1940’s my Dad thought it would be a good idea to take a walking tour of the old Missouri State prison. The whole family went, Dad and Mom and 2 little girls. We walked through the general population and the guard leading the tour tapped a metal cane on the ground the whole way. When they heard us coming the convicts would either go into their cells, or retreat a safe distance from our path and remain there until we passed. The prison was old, but fairly clean and orderly. Some convicts had painted their cells bright colors and had radios, etc. We were allowed to choose something from the prison handicraft shop, so my sister and I bought some small wooden dogs that the prisoners had whittled and painted. Now I look back on that time and wonder how they maintained that much control in that facility.


69 posted on 10/08/2019 12:39:31 PM PDT by chronicles
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To: chronicles

People were much different back then....................


70 posted on 10/08/2019 12:41:07 PM PDT by Red Badger (Against stupidity the gods themselves contend in vain...................)
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To: Mr.Unique
Following the law won’t keep you out of prison.

It's worked for me so far. Never been arrested or jailed in my 65 years.

71 posted on 10/08/2019 12:44:42 PM PDT by AlaskaErik
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To: Steely Tom

The media runs with anything these days. It doesn’t matter if it’s the truth or not. Verifying stories before reporting them isn’t in their job duties anymore.


72 posted on 10/08/2019 12:45:07 PM PDT by mass55th ("Courage is being scared to death, but saddling up anyway." ~~ John Wayne)
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To: wildcard_redneck
I don’t think inmates would mind working hard to improve their own conditions

It's the inmates making the conditions so bad to begin with. They're the ones ripping the sinks and toilets out of their cells, throwing food and feces, and generally trashing the place. If I was a guard, I wouldn't want to be cleaning up some inmate's sh_t because he was throwing a tantrum.

I say they live in the mess they make. If they want it to be better, then they can make it better. And come down like a ton of hurt on the ones who mess it up.

73 posted on 10/08/2019 12:51:39 PM PDT by IronJack
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To: mass55th
The media runs with anything these days. It doesn’t matter if it’s the truth or not. Verifying stories before reporting them isn’t in their job duties anymore.

They only reason they used to verify stories (to the extent they did) was because they were afraid they would lose credibility if they were found to be spreading false stories.

Sometime in the '70s or '80s they realized that they didn't have to worry about that, and adopted the "there's a sucker born every minute" business model. Today they appeal to the lowest common denominator in all things. They know the more intelligent news consumers have gone to the internet.

Their advertisers are looking for sheep-like dummies who will adjust their purchasing practices in response to advertisements; this population happens to be the Democrat party's key target voter demographic, so there's a nice confluence of purpose there.

74 posted on 10/08/2019 12:54:03 PM PDT by Steely Tom ([Seth Rich] == [the Democrats' John Dean])
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To: Red Badger

All prisons should be like the one in the movie “Cool Hand Luke”.


75 posted on 10/08/2019 12:55:17 PM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: Red Badger

A submarine on patrol is like a prison without all the pretty windows.


76 posted on 10/08/2019 12:57:31 PM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: Responsibility2nd
"I strongly suspect if they did - they'd get fired. So that leaves prison offiicals."

When I retired in 2003, the prison administration in central NY State where I worked, was more concerned about the floors being waxed than they were if the inmate's were doing drugs, or carrying weapons. They didn't want us writing too many disciplinary reports, and forced disciplinary hearing Lieutenants, and Watch Commanders (also Lt.'s) to downplay any serious charges and misbehavior. We had limited special housing (SHU) space to lock up inmates who needed locking up. Most times, an inmate was released from SHU early to make room for somebody else. They might as well have put a revolving door on the building. As a Superintendent, if you had too many U.I.'s (Unusual Incidents) that had to be reported to Albany (N.Y.), you were called to Albany to explain what was going on in your prison. So to keep Albany from actually hearing about the problems, and so the Superintendent could keep his job, reports and U.I.'s were suppressed at the facility level.

And of course, what uniformed staff can and can't do (frisking, strip frisks, etc.) are all guided by the courts, and violation of any inmate's rights when it comes to stuff like that can be detrimental to an officer's or supervisor's career. You can't do the job if your hands are tied by the courts, and the politically appointed individuals who oversee the prisons.

77 posted on 10/08/2019 12:58:33 PM PDT by mass55th ("Courage is being scared to death, but saddling up anyway." ~~ John Wayne)
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To: central_va

All prisons should be like the one in the movie “Cool Hand Luke”.

_____________________________________________

Nothing but white men?

Liberals would agree with that!


78 posted on 10/08/2019 1:04:34 PM PDT by Responsibility2nd
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To: montag813

U beat me to it


79 posted on 10/08/2019 1:10:26 PM PDT by italianquaker
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To: central_va

All prisons should be like the one in the movie “Midnight Express”..................


80 posted on 10/08/2019 1:10:41 PM PDT by Red Badger (Against stupidity the gods themselves contend in vain...................)
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