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Why is Europe so absurdly backward compared to the U.S. in rail freight transport
Freight Waves ^ | 10/5/2019 | Vishnu Rajamanickam

Posted on 10/07/2019 5:25:12 AM PDT by Gamecock

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To: Gamecock

The europeons can move a lot of people to prison camps in the next war efficiently.....


21 posted on 10/07/2019 5:53:31 AM PDT by minnesota_bound (homeless guy. He just has more money....)
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To: struggle
The freight traffic through North Idaho is just unbelievable. Huge oil trains. Huge coal trains. Huge lumber trains. Huge double-stacked container trains. Huge rail yards scattered all over. Everything running 24x7.

BNSF is working to add a second track across hundreds of miles where single track is now operating. They are working to build a second bridge across Lake Pend Oreille to ease congestion and slow downs. The locals are really worried about hazardous cargo derailments ruining the beautiful lake.


22 posted on 10/07/2019 6:10:13 AM PDT by ProtectOurFreedom
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To: Psalm 73

” - we move freight, they move people.”

Especially Jews. They were really good at that.


23 posted on 10/07/2019 6:14:00 AM PDT by elcid1970 ("The Second Amendment is more important than Islam.")
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To: bigdaddy45

They sure have us beat in passenger rail service though. I just spent the past week in Europe traveling extensively via railroads. It’s fantastic. Wish we had it here

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In a country 3,000 miles wide, rail is the economically cheapest way to move a pound of freight. Air travel is the cheapest way, and the fastest, to move a pound of people.


24 posted on 10/07/2019 6:14:29 AM PDT by Flick Lives (MSM, the Enemy of the People since 1898)
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To: mewzilla

You think Amtrak is what is holding back US passenger rail?


25 posted on 10/07/2019 6:16:02 AM PDT by babble-on
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To: minnesota_bound

Actually it is more efficient to move them packed into box cars than passenger cars, so we have them beat there.


26 posted on 10/07/2019 6:16:44 AM PDT by Gamecock (Time is short Eternity is long It is reasonable that this short life be lived in light of eternity)
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To: bigdaddy45

I just got back from Scotland and used the trains. Yes, it was nice. But over there they have regular everyday people using the trains. Think about what it would be like here. When I was younger I used Greyhound bus to get around. Now I wouldn’t ride the bus. They’re full of trashy people. The trains would wind up the same way.


27 posted on 10/07/2019 6:33:42 AM PDT by sheana
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To: samtheman
Traveling across the US noted the length and frequency of large trains. I was amazed when I first saw that 25 years ago especially in the desert SW.
28 posted on 10/07/2019 6:34:57 AM PDT by Mouton (The media is the enemy of the people.)
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To: mewzilla

We need Supertrain.


29 posted on 10/07/2019 6:35:14 AM PDT by wally_bert (Hola. Me llamo Inspector Carlton Lassiter. Me gusta queso.)
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To: ProtectOurFreedom
Wow...is that five engines out front?

Amazing...I guess 2 or 3 more at the rear.

30 posted on 10/07/2019 6:35:59 AM PDT by spokeshave (If anything, Trump is guilty of attempting to obstruct injustice.)
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To: elcid1970

Ouch! That’s gotta’ leave a mark....


31 posted on 10/07/2019 6:39:56 AM PDT by Psalm 73 ("I will now proceed to entangle the entire area".)
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To: spokeshave

Sometimes you see seven in front. There are often two in the middle of the train these days.


32 posted on 10/07/2019 6:42:03 AM PDT by ProtectOurFreedom
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To: Gamecock

What is this train thread without Willlie Green?


33 posted on 10/07/2019 6:43:10 AM PDT by KC Burke (If all the world is a stage, I would like to request my lighting be adjusted.)
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To: Gamecock

Maybe their demand for cheap sh*t from China isn’t as high as ours.


34 posted on 10/07/2019 6:43:11 AM PDT by Jim Noble (There is nothing racist in stating plainly what most people already know)
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To: mewzilla

In a couple of years we are supposed to have a bullet train going from Miami to Orlando in just 28 minutes!


35 posted on 10/07/2019 6:49:33 AM PDT by PJ-Comix (SUBSCRIBE to the DUmmie FUnnIes YouTube Channel...NOW!!!)
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To: ProtectOurFreedom

A lot of oil being freighted through NC as well. I noticed a marked increase after Trump was elected.


36 posted on 10/07/2019 6:50:58 AM PDT by struggle
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To: Flick Lives
"In a country 3,000 miles wide, rail is the economically cheapest way to move a pound of freight. Air travel is the cheapest way, and the fastest, to move a pound of people."

I think that sums it up pretty well. And the beauty of free-market economics - the market will find the best solution.

37 posted on 10/07/2019 6:52:59 AM PDT by Psalm 73 ("I will now proceed to entangle the entire area".)
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To: mewzilla
If done right, meaning speedy, private passenger rail in the US could be a money maker.

This is absolutely true. I spent several years lobbying on Capitol Hill for passenger rail transport. The problem isn't the idea -- the high-speed rail system in California is a perfectly developed notion -- it's the implementation of it. There's too many hands in the pot.

From the politicians, to the environmentalists, to the regulatory agencies, to the NIMBYs, to the transportation authorities, to the taxation agencies, to the suppliers and vendors, once everyone takes their cut, the cost is too high.

It's not just rail. We can hardly build roadways effectively and efficiently any longer. Look how many years and how much money it takes just to add a few lanes to an existing highway.

Most of our freight rail lines are along corridors that have been in place for decades -- if not over a century. Passenger rail systems need new throughways and cannot, in most cases, share freight lines. Until we yank the extra hands out of the pot, passenger rail in this country will remain a fantasy.

38 posted on 10/07/2019 6:54:15 AM PDT by Magnatron
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To: Jim Noble
Maybe their demand for cheap sh*t from China isn’t as high as ours.

Would the Sh!T really be that much more expense if made in the USA? I doubt it. That's the same we offshored for nothing really.

39 posted on 10/07/2019 6:55:28 AM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: Gamecock

This article ignores important distinctions between Europe and USA. Two obvious ones are the immense distances in the US that allow unit trains and container trains to be efficient. It makes no sense to load up a huge train to travel to Frankfurt or Zurich.

Also, the dispersed destinations of Europe cause the use of smaller trains that end closer to the final user to make more economic sense. Our system has slowly excluded small feeder lines and industrial users, who have now turned to truck transport. That’s a trade-off Europe has not been willing to make, and we may yet regret.


40 posted on 10/07/2019 7:05:25 AM PDT by oldplayer
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