Posted on 10/01/2019 8:55:22 AM PDT by CaptainK
Amber Guyer guilty of murder, Just announced on FOX News
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I don’t know how long she’s going away (because this was not premeditated, so probably not death penalty material), but she deserves it. And I say this as the mother of a cop. People like Amber give all cops a bad rep.
She may have been drunk but she was certainly not drunk enough to believe she was in her own apartment and he was an intruder. I read elsewhere that she had complained frequently about music coming from his apartment (below hers) so she must have known that she didn’t live there and he did.
I think she was seriously drunk and this could possibly have been manslaughter, but she was a police officer and they must be held to a higher standard in order to deserve public confidence.
The jury decided correctly, I think, and it has nothing to do with racial issues, in this case. If she’d shot a white guy, she should have gotten the same.
Ping
What investigators, hired by her? My latch sometimes does not latch. The cure for this is me pushing on the door and waiting for a click. I assume this man and any semi-intelligent person is to do the same. An investigator can then come to the conclusion paid for. Sometimes it doesn’t latch, that doesn’t mean it wasn’t latched at the time. The lady-cop murdered the man. Sorry, the charge does not require malice aforethought. It just fits this crime.
What was the motive?
Does that have something to do with her portrayed trial image?
First look at the number, at the door mat, smell the air. Your house smells the same, a strangers house smells differently. EVERY sense you have would make you take a step back and check for other clues.
What was the motive?
Involuntary manslaughter: the defendant unintentionally killed the victim but still acted recklessly. Involuntary manslaughter differs from second degree murder in the extent of the defendant’s recklessness. The more extreme or depraved the recklessness, the more likely that second degree murder has occurred
Ok. Let's go a different route.
She comes into my home, armed, and starts barking orders.
She has now violated the sanctity of my home and is pointing a gun at me. That makes this a HOME INVASION, regardless of whether or not she is wearing the magic blue suit of infallibility.
I have a CCW. I will never touch alcohol while carrying. This should be policy for cops. Yes, I know they are always carrying, which is why they should stay out of bars. If you can't stay sober, both on and off duty, then you should not be a cop.
If he had defended himself, I bet they would have descended on him in force and killed him anyway. and then called it a “good shoot.” We do have a problem in this country with trigger happy cops. I’m not anti-police. They are mostly great people doing a tough job. But something IS seriously broken.
She will win on appeal. This is aggravated manslaughter at most. She will be broke when its all over....
AGREE!!!!!
“...The door latch was broken and, hence, it was opened/unlocked, she did not ‘break’ in...”
The door does not need to be locked. She ‘broke’ the barrier from the public outside to the private inside.
One definition i found from law.com
breaking and entering
n. 1) the criminal act of entering a residence or other enclosed property through the slightest amount of force (even pushing open a door), without authorization. If there is intent to commit a crime, this is burglary. If there is no such intent, the breaking and entering alone is probably at least illegal trespass, which is a misdemeanor crime. 2) the criminal charge for the above.
My guess is she shot him up pretty bad beyond threat neutralized
She fired her gun twice, hitting him once in the heart.
I agree with you. If he had shot her, because again, she violated the sanctity of his home, he would have had every right to empty his magazine into her skull and then finish his ice cream.
In my CCW class, I was told by my instructor that if I shot somebody who I thought was threatening someone else with a gun, and it turned out I shot a plainclothes cop who was making an arrest, that I WOULD be charged regardless of how honest I thought my mistake was.
It needs to apply to cops too.
Exactly. That is why I’m calling what she did a home invasion.
Showing up at the wrong house and killing the occupant. If she were on duty she’d probably have gotten away with it.
When I was young like five or six my mom and I came home from A&P to our modest 1300 sq foot 3/2 home in a post war subdivision
We heard someone in the back room...hers and my dad’s
It was a 19-20 year old retarded boy from across the street ....few folks locked their doors...
He was rifling my moms lingerie ....he kept saying his mom told him to get something we couldn’t understand....he was sub Downs capable...
My mother didn’t panic and she had a baby browning .25 she carried in her purse
She told him he could take what he had in his hand ....
Which he did
And he left...
While she was looking for his moms number to call her...the mom came running over so embarrassed and apologizing with the lingerie in her grasp
She had sent him over to bring my mom some tickets to Little Theatre....they were both arty
Retarded or not he was obviously in the throes of late puberty and got distracted
When dad came home his first words were thank God you didn’t kill him...my mother was like “honey... he is like a child....like Boo Radley “
Mother had read the book but I don’t think the movie was out yet....she was only around 27-28
My dad didn’t read fiction books so he just looked at her puzzled after her comment lol
He never came over again and they moved to New Orleans about a year later
Asbestos sided homes with brick facades on the front
Typical late fifties modest starter homes
This fits the definition of aggravated manslaughter. Murder, no way. She wins on appeal.
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