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3 Navy sailors assigned to USS George H.W. Bush kill themselves in a week
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| September 23, 2019
| Ben Feuerherd
Posted on 09/24/2019 11:17:00 AM PDT by ransomnote
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To: ransomnote
I looked it up. The suicide rate is 14.7 per 100,000. For the crew of 5,000 there should be .7 suicides per year. Their rate is very high. The highest rates are in middle aged white men, which are 69% of the total.
The article’s authors really let us down by not providing any details. What were their ages and races? Where drugs found in their systems? Did they have anything to do with the Clintons?
To: reed13k
AOs are ships company, quite a big group of them too. They take care of the weapon spaces and weapons elevators. At least they did when I was in.
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posted on
09/24/2019 12:18:54 PM PDT
by
csvset
(tolerance becomes a crime when attached to evil)
To: ransomnote
Knew someone who served on that ship.
Told someone she was going to throw herself off the flight deck. Thankfully received the help she needed.
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posted on
09/24/2019 12:20:36 PM PDT
by
BenLurkin
(The above is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire. Or both.)
To: BenLurkin
That is so sad. Glad your friend got help. Im sorry for the others.
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posted on
09/24/2019 12:22:53 PM PDT
by
Yaelle
To: ransomnote
These are tragic deaths, but the Navy's suicide rate (per 100,000) is less than the demographic-(age-sex)-adjusted civilian rate: "Last year, the Navy recorded 68 active duty suicides about 20.7 per 100,000 people. For comparison, officials point to the most recently available and demographically adjusted civilian rate from 2016, which lists 26.8 suicides per 100,000 people." https://www.navytimes.com/news/your-navy/2019/09/24/investigators-probing-four-suicides-involving-carrier-crew/
To: chief lee runamok
28 months in the yards would suck. Lots of folks go TAD, either to some suck ass detail in the yards or sent to other ships. Lots of equipment is torn up for months or in this case years at a time and then at the end of the yard period, a shitload of work once things come back together. Portsmouth isnt exactly a great place to be but I preferred that to Newport News.
We had a CHENG (Chief Engineer) on the Coral Sea, that SOB thought he was the CO. Bastard was in the middle of having his own melt down and took on Captain Queegs personality. The CO finally reeled him in.
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posted on
09/24/2019 12:29:09 PM PDT
by
csvset
(tolerance becomes a crime when attached to evil)
To: BenLurkin
Wow. Hate to be the first to say it, but does this ship have any kind of reputation for being cursed or haunted? If I were the ship's chaplain, I'd be exorcising the hell out of this ship (literally). It couldn't hurt.
Alternatively, could there be any gasses or other materials specific to this ship that could be leaking and causing depression and mood changes? It's been known to happen in buildings.
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posted on
09/24/2019 12:34:53 PM PDT
by
fidelis
(Zonie and USAF Cold Warrior)
To: ransomnote
"Three Navy sailors assigned to the USS George H.W. Bush
aircraft carrier killed themselves last week in separate incidents,..." Is Captain Bligh in command of that ship?
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posted on
09/24/2019 12:35:37 PM PDT
by
StormEye
To: Mount Athos
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posted on
09/24/2019 12:36:11 PM PDT
by
Secret Agent Man
(Gone Galt; Not Averse to Going Bronson.)
To: ransomnote
there are repercussions for seeking help though. if deemed unstable it could mean removal from your post. it could be career ending.
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posted on
09/24/2019 12:37:05 PM PDT
by
Secret Agent Man
(Gone Galt; Not Averse to Going Bronson.)
To: NEMDF
My first thought was mentally ill (redundant) homos.
To: Nuc 1.1
Shipyard periods are a terrible time to be assigned to a ship. All that noise and dirt and long hours. No fun. Ships and sailors belong at sea.
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posted on
09/24/2019 1:03:23 PM PDT
by
Oldexpat
(Jobs Not Mobs)
To: ransomnote
Three suicides in a week???
Color me suspicious but I think it needs some very serious looking into.
I find that far too coincidental.
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posted on
09/24/2019 1:17:55 PM PDT
by
metmom
( ...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith...)
To: ransomnote
The number and closeness in time may indicate a connection. I hope not.
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posted on
09/24/2019 1:44:41 PM PDT
by
trisham
(Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
To: ransomnote
I predict the captain of the ship will be relieved of duty and replaced.
When I was on active duty in the Air Force, stationed in New Mexico at Holloman AFB, in the 49th Tactical Fighter Wing, six airmen committed suicide in a one year period.
The Wing Commander of the base, a one star general, was fired for failure to uphold morale and safety of the troops.
Of course, the suicides weren't his fault personally but he was responsible for the overall morale of the troops under his command and his superiors saw the suicides as a failure in that area.
It's not that unusual to have troops kill themselves. The law of averages would account for some suicides just by the numbers. A Navy aircraft carrier is a big ship. Lots of sailors on board. Out to sea for extended periods of time. They are usually young, miss their families and or girlfriends and can't see any other way out.
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posted on
09/24/2019 1:55:19 PM PDT
by
HotHunt
(Been there. Done that.)
To: CondorFlight
Or mind play.
Whatever, it’s too coincidental.
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posted on
09/24/2019 2:04:36 PM PDT
by
bgill
To: NEMDF
I read once that majority of suicides are caucasian.
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posted on
09/24/2019 2:04:40 PM PDT
by
The_Media_never_lie
(Please, oh pretty please let Crazy Uncle Joe Biden be the nominee.)
To: ransomnote
It is with a heavy heart that I can confirm the loss of three Sailors last week in separate, unrelated incidents from apparent suicide. When something like this happens, my first thought is that they were homosexuals. Homosexuals kill themselves at very high rates compared to the normal portion of the population.
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posted on
09/24/2019 2:19:14 PM PDT
by
DiogenesLamp
("of parents owing allegiance to no oither sovereignty.")
To: NEMDF
This is very sad. But I am curious as to their back stories. Any of them LGBT? Exactly my first thought. These LGBT people who keep trying to convince actual normal people that they too are normal, kill themselves at rates of 40 to 50%.
Way way way beyond the average for people who have normal sexuality.
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posted on
09/24/2019 2:21:01 PM PDT
by
DiogenesLamp
("of parents owing allegiance to no oither sovereignty.")
To: Oldexpat
“Shipyard periods are a terrible time to be assigned to a ship. All that noise and dirt and long hours. No fun. Ships and sailors belong at sea.”
Also, the lowest bidder usually did the yard work, and they cut the corners/eliminated a lot of things that made it easier to live on a ship.
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posted on
09/24/2019 2:42:16 PM PDT
by
Grampa Dave
(The line that separates satire and Democrats and Stupidity has vanished. (thanks to jonascord)!)
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