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Call me crazy, but Windows 11 could run on Linux
ComputerWorld ^ | 17 September 2019 | Steven J. Vaughan-Nichols

Posted on 09/18/2019 7:06:41 AM PDT by ShadowAce

With Microsoft embracing Linux ever more tightly, might it do the heretofore unthinkable and dump the NT kernel in favor of the Linux kernel? No, I’m not ready for the funny farm. As it prepares Windows 11, Microsoft has been laying the groundwork for such a radical release.

I’ve long toyed with the idea that Microsoft could release a desktop Linux. Now I’ve started taking that idea more seriously — with a twist. Microsoft could replace Windows’ innards, the NT kernel, with a Linux kernel.

It would still look like Windows. For most users, it would still work like Windows. But the engine running it all would be Linux.

Why would Microsoft do this? Well, have you been paying attention to Windows lately? It has been one foul-up after another. Just in the last few months there was the registry backup fail and numerous and regular machine-hobbling Windows updates. In fact, updates have grown so sloppy you have to seriously wonder whether it’s safer to stay open to attacks or “upgrade” your system with a dodgy patch.

Remember when letting your Windows system get automatic patches every month was nothing to worry about? I do. Good times.

Why is this happening? The root cause of all these problems is that, for Microsoft, Windows desktop software is now a back-burner product. It wants your company to move you to Windows Virtual Desktop and replace your existing PC-based software, like Office 2019, with software-as-a-service (SaaS) programs like Office 365. It’s obvious, right? Nobody in Redmond cares anymore, so quality assurance for Windows the desktop is being flushed down the toilet.

What’s that? You can’t run your Windows applications on Linux? Wrong.

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KEYWORDS: linux; windows; windowspinglist
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To: Openurmind

The license is already pretty strong—it’s even survived a couple of court challenges, and several companies have eleted not to go to court due its strength.


21 posted on 09/18/2019 8:01:51 AM PDT by ShadowAce (Linux - The Ultimate Windows Service Pack)
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To: ShadowAce

Yep, you can talk to Clem himself in the Mint forums.


22 posted on 09/18/2019 8:07:40 AM PDT by Openurmind
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To: ShadowAce

I don’t trust them at all. Somehow they will make it proprietary and claim ownership. I’m calling it now,”Their” linux will have back doors, be limited use per customer, cannot be copied or used on more than one device, and require registration.

And to top it off, updates will not be able to be turned off or refused. they are going to take a good thing and completely ruin it.


23 posted on 09/18/2019 8:19:30 AM PDT by Openurmind
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To: Eric in the Ozarks

What’s the photo handling program?


24 posted on 09/18/2019 8:22:30 AM PDT by FreedomPoster (Islam delenda est)
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To: ShadowAce

A complete redo of the kernel is a yuuuugge undertaking.


25 posted on 09/18/2019 8:45:46 AM PDT by Tell It Right (1st Thessalonians 5:21 -- Put everything to the test, hold fast to that which is true.)
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To: dayglored
"Would it kill off Linux as a Windows-independent OS? Quite possibly."


26 posted on 09/18/2019 9:14:17 AM PDT by Boogieman
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To: ShadowAce

I thought that win 10 was forever..


27 posted on 09/18/2019 9:15:15 AM PDT by mowowie
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To: ShadowAce

But why would you want to go and ruin Linux?


28 posted on 09/18/2019 10:05:51 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog (Patrick Henry would have been an anti-vaxxer.)
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To: Openurmind
With MS it’s an obsessive compulsive disorder.

"You know how engineers are. They love to change things."


29 posted on 09/18/2019 12:38:47 PM PDT by Bloody Sam Roberts (Elitist Liberals have no idea the hunger and strength of the beast they have uncaged.)
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To: ShadowAce

If by running with Linux, this means MSFT will stop all the updates to the updates to the patches released Oct 8, 2019 and all the intrusiveness, I might consider giving it try.


30 posted on 09/18/2019 12:50:03 PM PDT by upchuck (If democrats would stop shooting people gun violence would drop by 90% ~ h/t Mr K.)
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To: Seruzawa

I did too. What’s with this Windoze 11 crap?


31 posted on 09/18/2019 2:03:57 PM PDT by ducttape45 ("Righteousness exalteth a nation; but sin is a reproach to any people." Proverbs 14:34)
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To: MichaelRDanger
The absence of a need for virus protection is not do to technical superiority but a reflection of it’s obscurity...

You are aware that most servers run Linux? Plus your Android phone's OS is a Linux derivative? And the iPhone's OS is another unix derivative?

32 posted on 09/18/2019 2:30:05 PM PDT by PapaBear3625 ("Those who can make you believe absurdities, can make you commit atrocities." -- Voltaire)
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To: ShadowAce; All

For someone who is not incompetent, but is no computer expert:

What is the most efficient and effective approach to transferring from Windows 7 to Linux?

I liked XP, and like 7. I want nothing to do with 10.

I am a composer, among other specialized avocations, with very specific concomitant applications.

I already lost some valued programs when switching from XP to 7. (The Virtual XP setup never really worked well for me.) My concern is losing Windows-only programs that I must have.


33 posted on 09/18/2019 4:26:57 PM PDT by YogicCowboy ("I am not entirely on anyone's side, because no one is entirely on mine." - J. R. R. Tolkien)
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To: ShadowAce

I’ve been running Windows on Linux for years. Not to mention OSX, Android, OS2 and MS-DOS.

It’s called Virtualbox.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/VirtualBox

I’ve been running UNIX tools on Windows even longer. It’s called GnuWin32.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GnuWin32


34 posted on 09/18/2019 6:33:35 PM PDT by Paal Gulli
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To: TomGuy
"A Windows-11 might be a saving grace for MS, because 10 is about a bad as the ole VISTA and Win8. "

Not likely, since there isn't going to be a Windows 11.

35 posted on 09/18/2019 6:53:20 PM PDT by Paal Gulli
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To: YogicCowboy
"What is the most efficient and effective approach to transferring from Windows 7 to Linux?"

Remove (or simply disconnect) the Windows hard drive, load Linux on the new HDD, boot and configure Linux, then reconnect the XP HDD and transfer your personal files over.

Your Windows applications by and large will not work. Some can be made to work under WINE (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wine_(software)) or similar, but it makes for a steep learning curve asking a Linux noob to run something that's mission critical on WINE.


"I already lost some valued programs when switching from XP to 7. (The Virtual XP setup never really worked well for me.) My concern is losing Windows-only programs that I must have."

You could run REAL XP in a virtual environment on a Linux system using VBox. XP's only shortcoming is that it's vulnerable if networked so just don't enable the virtual OS's network devices and it will be fine.

Or you could run XP in a stand-alone PC. Just don't network it and it will be as functional (apart from not being networked) as it was in Y2K.


I've still got one desktop and one laptop running XP. I did the "PosReady" hack on both so they're still receiving updates (as are the millions of ATMs that are still running on XP) but there are other hiccups. They stopped updating Flash Player and Java for XP quite some time ago and not that long ago they stopped updating Firefox. But for a standalone (non-networked) system that you're only using for certain pet applications, that shouldn't matter.


What you'd rather do is find a buddy who's Linux-literate (and has a suitable amount of gray hair) and offer him a case of beer to do the job for you.

36 posted on 09/18/2019 7:02:34 PM PDT by Paal Gulli
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To: MichaelRDanger
There has “always” issues with security patches and updates. That the author of this article doesn’t remember this casts doubts on his credibility...

Spot-On.

37 posted on 09/18/2019 7:07:34 PM PDT by usconservative (When The Ballot Box No Longer Counts, The Ammunition Box Does. (What's In Your Ammo Box?))
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