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Vinyl On Pace To Outsell CDs For The First Time Since 1986
Rolling Stone ^ | September 11, 2019 | Elias Leight

Posted on 09/11/2019 1:53:53 PM PDT by CaliforniaCraftBeer

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To: TexasGator

My ears are so shot by now, I’d never know the difference.


41 posted on 09/11/2019 2:43:46 PM PDT by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: Blood of Tyrants

I learned about the Nyquist frequency over 40 years ago.

I spent my career as a Test Engineer sampling data.


42 posted on 09/11/2019 2:44:07 PM PDT by TexasGator (Z1z)
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To: Blood of Tyrants

I learned about the Nyquist frequency over 40 years ago.

I spent my career as a Test Engineer sampling data.


43 posted on 09/11/2019 2:44:07 PM PDT by TexasGator (Z1z)
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To: Gay State Conservative

Agreed. I have a Denon that plays almost all formats for that reason; coupled with a clean and clear preamp, the sound is quite smooth. The high-end versions of Pet Sounds are amazing.

I still have my old vinyl, but:

My entire analog system was stolen.

CDs are much smaller, and more stable.

Many obscure albums from post-80s are not available on vinyl.

I am a semi-professional musician. None - not one - of my many ensemble performances are available on vinyl. Some of those concerts were memorable, and I have them on CD.


44 posted on 09/11/2019 2:46:33 PM PDT by YogicCowboy ("I am not entirely on anyone's side, because no one is entirely on mine." - J. R. R. Tolkien)
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To: CaliforniaCraftBeer
Maybe the most epic album cover of all time ... not just because it's a Led Zeppelin classic, but because the building on the right is the location where the Rolling Stones filmed their video for "Waiting On A Friend" a few years later. It's on St. Mark's Place in the East Village of NYC.


45 posted on 09/11/2019 2:47:27 PM PDT by Alberta's Child ("Knowledge makes a man unfit to be a slave." -- Frederick Douglass)
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To: dfwgator
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46 posted on 09/11/2019 2:48:50 PM PDT by CaliforniaCraftBeer
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To: Mouton
I prefer my version...much more “stimulating”. ;-)
47 posted on 09/11/2019 2:54:52 PM PDT by Gay State Conservative (A joke: Brennan,Comey and Lynch walk into a Barr...)
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To: Mouton

I like Route 101.


48 posted on 09/11/2019 2:57:04 PM PDT by wally_bert (Hola. Me llamo Inspector Carlton Lassiter. Me gusta queso.)
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To: CaliforniaCraftBeer

That takes me back. I remember a friend rigging his to play albums backwards. Another once used his tone arm to weight a gram of hash.


49 posted on 09/11/2019 3:05:59 PM PDT by gundog ( Hail to the Chief, bitches!)
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To: Alberta's Child

Led Zeppelin “In My Time Of Dying” from Physical Graffiti on Vinyl:
https://bit.ly/2kg0BSs


50 posted on 09/11/2019 3:10:24 PM PDT by CaliforniaCraftBeer
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51 posted on 09/11/2019 3:25:58 PM PDT by CaliforniaCraftBeer
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To: Sans-Culotte

Bob Norborg’s mastering should NEVER be trusted...especially on any Sinatra album he remastered.

A few notes on Sinatra’s iconic “Wee Small Hours” from Steve Hoffman re: CD vs LP:


Quickly (without boring too many old time members here).

WEE SMALL recorded in 1955 at Capitol, Melrose in a nice, intimate dry setting. Records cut from this original tape sound progressively better as the years go on with the best (to me) in the higher numbers around 1958-60.

In 1962, Capitol redubs the original album master with bad mono echo for a “new” release of the album and DISMANTLES THE ORIGINAL TAPE for deep storage. This new turkey tape is marked MASTER. The actual master cuts are marked: DO NOT USE.

No cutting after 1961 can be trusted. Only trust “scroll style” lead out matrix numbers.

In the 1980’s my buddy at Capitol, the late Pete Welding decided to reissue this on compact disc. He means well and takes the effort to go back to the original DO NOT USE tapes but decides (unfortunately) that it sounds too dry and needs reverb, thereby rendering it revisionist claptrap just like the reduped with echo 1962 version. Why go to all that trouble of finding the absolute original tapes and then do the same thing that they did to the tapes in 1962? Arggh

This is your only choice if you don’t have a turntable. So, do one of two things: Get the old LP or find someone to make you a needle drop on CD if you want to hear what this classic album should sound like.

Over and out.
Steve Hoffman, Dec 21, 2007


52 posted on 09/11/2019 3:26:20 PM PDT by newfreep ("INSIDE EVERY PROGRESSIVE IS A TOTALITARIAN SCREAMING TO GET OUT" - DAVID HOROWITZ)
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To: RatRipper

Me too. Benjamin Miracord gear driven direct drive I bought in 1967. Still in its original base with the original dust cover. Works great!


53 posted on 09/11/2019 3:42:54 PM PDT by rockinqsranch ("Democratic" party sold out to the ICP. It is now the Communist Party USA.)
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To: real saxophonist
Commercial Photography
54 posted on 09/11/2019 3:43:28 PM PDT by CaliforniaCraftBeer
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To: CaliforniaCraftBeer

55 posted on 09/11/2019 3:49:47 PM PDT by real saxophonist (Yeah, well, y'know that's just like, uh... your opinion, man.)
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To: CaliforniaCraftBeer
ELO. I had that. It came with that cardboard UFO one could assemble.
56 posted on 09/11/2019 3:52:34 PM PDT by real saxophonist (Yeah, well, y'know that's just like, uh... your opinion, man.)
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To: forgotten man

[[They have only been played on my Thorens turntable with a Microacoustics cartridge.]]

Is that the googlephonic with the moon rock needle?

I used to listen to mine while wearing my gasoline powered turtle neck sweater.


57 posted on 09/11/2019 4:48:31 PM PDT by headstamp 2 (There's a stairway to heaven, but there's a highway to hell.)
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To: TexasGator

The audio reproduction cannot be 100% faithfully reproduced to 20khz using a 44.1 kHz sampling rate.
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

Thank you TexasGator for stating the truth. So many people, or should I say, uneducated folks, claim that because human ear cannot hear beyond 15 kHz realistically, that the Nyquist frequency is sufficient.

I sometimes get into vicious arguments with people who do not understand. It is indeed correct to say faithful reproduction of the audio waveform is the goal, and the more samples per second and the more bits per second yield a truer reproduction than simply 44kHz/16bits.

I have heard 96kHz/24bit, 192kHz/24bit and listening fatigue is indeed reduced at the these sample rates. Listening at 100 watts per channel cranked up is very much satisfying.

I even have a TASCAM DA-3000 master recorder that records in DSF format at sample rates of both 2.8 million per seconds and 5.6 million per second. I have recorded events in 5.6. Replay is incredibly and astoundingly clear and precise.

Also, your computer sound card must have excellent clock timing to reduce what is called “Jitter” for accurate detection of the digital bit stream for very exacting reproduction of the audio wave form.

I did a lot of research into sound cards. I made purchase of an ASUS Essence STX II sound card that is absolutely phenomenal. With such precise clock timing, there is little to no digital jitter, and on playback you hear things from favorite recordings that you never have heard before.

You can hear the room that surrounds the instruments being played, even from sources such as 44kHz/16bit and off of YT. Instruments such as cymbals are heard in a very real shimmer. ON one Black Sabbath cut, you can hear Ozzy burp. Never heard that before.

Enough of my blather. I get all worked up whenever anyone mentions Nyquist. Cheers.


58 posted on 09/11/2019 4:53:22 PM PDT by AlexisHeavyMetal1981 (Z)
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To: TexasGator

And also, if you look at the newer vinyl album labels, most of the time in small print it will say that the source audio is from a digital audio stream.

This negates the whole reason for vinyl records, since before CD all vinyl records were cut from analog source, like a master tape or even sometimes direct to the lacquer master. Vinyl record is meant to be an analog format.

Once you chop up an audio wave form into digital, you inherently lose some of its information.

Again, which is why the source must be considered. The higher the digital sample rate, the better.


59 posted on 09/11/2019 5:01:22 PM PDT by AlexisHeavyMetal1981
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To: real saxophonist
"..I was a Selmer guy my whole career, never played a Mauriat, so I don't know...."

Your instrument is your communication tool....

I was a Selmer guy early in my career, but then discovered King Super 20.

Never looked back....

It's all about finding your sound, your expression, etc..

60 posted on 09/11/2019 5:34:29 PM PDT by Victor (If an expert says it can't be done, get another expert." -David Ben-Gurion, the first Prime Minister)
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