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To: yarddog

Me too, I never thought about it being as simple as little armor, lot more gun or firepower. I like the .50 cal axial machine gun, in case you dun screwed up and got too close.

Also though, don’t tanks have anti-missile missiles these days, I thought they did. Still I think the deal with these is a tank might be able to kill one or two missile, no way five.


23 posted on 09/06/2019 11:51:17 AM PDT by ichabod1 (He's a vindictive SOB but he's *our* vindictive SOB.)
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To: ichabod1

Tanks can have Active Protection Systems, yes - but NATO mostly decided this was a bad idea until very recently, when Turkish-operated ex-German Army Leopard 2A5s went into Syria and got shredded by Russian ATGMs far more easily than commonly anticipated.

This caused the US Army to stop dithering and waiting for the Raytheon QuickKill APS (which has mostly been vaporware) and place an emergency order with Raphael of Israel for the Trophy APS to protect US M1 tanks. Other nations are hastily ordering APS retrofits as well.

Meanwhile the Russians and Israelis are laughing their arses off.

Anyway, in the recent Second Chechen War, those Russian ATGMs that slaughtered the Turkish Leopards were going up against the Russian domestic APS, the full on Arena and Shtora systems and descendants. The Chechens found out that they had to fire *six or more* heavy ATGMs to saturate *one* tank with front line APS just to get one hit. This was a very unpleasant surprise for the Chechens.

Non NATO tanks also mount multiple ATGM jammers/deflectors - see this video about one of these systems: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uqtWNPqYeyU


26 posted on 09/06/2019 12:15:14 PM PDT by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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