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'Joker': Film Review | Venice 2019
Hollywood Reporter ^ | Aug 2019 | David Rooney

Posted on 08/31/2019 11:18:30 AM PDT by CondoleezzaProtege

The clown prince of crime is alive and mentally unwell in Gotham City in Todd Phillips' grippingly atmospheric supervillain origin story, Joker. While a never-better Joaquin Phoenix paints on the famed maniacal smile with his own blood at one memorable climactic moment of messianic rebirth, what's most noteworthy about this gritty entry in the DC canon and the lead actor's sensational performance is the pathos he brings to a pathetically disenfranchised character — just like countless others in a metropolis in which the social chasm separating the haves from the have-nots has become a pit of incendiary rage.

The smart screenplay by Phillips and Scott Silver anchors the story in a fiercely divided city with echoes of a contemporary, morally bankrupt America, albeit in the dire economic straits of a decade ago, or the next crisis that's just around the corner, depending on which financial forecasts you believe.

(Excerpt) Read more at hollywoodreporter.com ...


TOPICS: TV/Movies
KEYWORDS: antihero; comics; criminalinsanity; deniro; film; joaquinephoenix; joker; mentalillness; villainworship
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To: RooRoobird20
I've heard of Joaquin Phoenix but have never seen anything he's done...I don't get out much :-)
21 posted on 08/31/2019 1:18:26 PM PDT by Gay State Conservative (A joke: Brennan,Comey and Lynch walk into a Barr...)
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Oh, and DeNiro’s in it.
He’s not getting one cent from me.


22 posted on 08/31/2019 1:22:18 PM PDT by RandallFlagg (Fact: Gun control laws kill innocents.)
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To: montag813; Salamander; Extremely Extreme Extremist; be-baw
agree. Less psychotropic drugs, less indulgence in violent fantasies = reduced violence

Thank you. And isn't it already a bad sign that Heath Ledger's mental state before his overdose had largely to do with playing this character? And Joaquin himself admitted to going a bit mad? Do we ALL really need this right now?

23 posted on 08/31/2019 1:24:13 PM PDT by CondoleezzaProtege
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They need to make a new academy award for original content. Of course there would only be enough content every 5 years or so


24 posted on 08/31/2019 1:29:21 PM PDT by dsrtsage (For Leftists, World History starts every day at breakfast)
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To: CondoleezzaProtege

“And isn’t it already a bad sign that Heath Ledger’s mental state before his overdose had largely to do with playing this character? “

I challenge your premise. I think it more likely that Ledger was already a druggy. He may have taken whatever he OD’d on to “prepare” for the role, but he likely had a problem before he got the gig.


25 posted on 08/31/2019 1:34:26 PM PDT by be-baw
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To: Gay State Conservative; RooRoobird20

*sigh*

Heath Ledger’s father reveals dead actor’s ‘Joker diary’ written during The Dark Knight

https://www.independent.co.uk/arts-entertainment/films/news/heath-ledgers-father-reveals-dead-actors-joker-diary-written-during-the-dark-knight-8640660.html


26 posted on 08/31/2019 1:35:56 PM PDT by CondoleezzaProtege
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To: Gay State Conservative

https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0001618/

He’s been a VERY busy actor. Loved him in, ‘Walk The Line’ and ‘Signs’ and ‘Gladiator.’


27 posted on 08/31/2019 2:54:46 PM PDT by Diana in Wisconsin (We come from the earth, we return to the earth, and in between we garden.~Alfred Austin)
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To: CondoleezzaProtege

Unlike the other films, this movie shows how The Joker became The Joker psychologically. I always thought the explanation in the first Batman film, where the transformation occurred from him falling into a vat of chemicals, was unrealistic. I think this one is worth a look.

Yes, DeNiro will make some $$ off it, but he’s old and very rich anyway.


28 posted on 08/31/2019 2:54:57 PM PDT by rbg81 (Truth is stranger than fiction)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin
Yup,I've certainly heard of him. But one of the drawbacks (or benefits?) of the boring life I lead is that I find watching reruns of Hogan's Heroes about as much excitement as I can tolerate. :-)
29 posted on 08/31/2019 3:02:59 PM PDT by Gay State Conservative (A joke: Brennan,Comey and Lynch walk into a Barr...)
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To: CondoleezzaProtege

Sorry. Nobody will ever be able to top the nuance and depth of Cesar Romero. Though many have tried.
(Man I’m tired of this comic book crap.)


30 posted on 08/31/2019 3:35:45 PM PDT by D_Idaho ("For we wrestle not against flesh and blood...")
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To: CondoleezzaProtege

“Messianic Rebirth”:

No, thank you. I am past tired of seeing the evil rehabilitated, and the good disenfranchised, in Whollyweird propaganda.


31 posted on 08/31/2019 3:36:14 PM PDT by YogicCowboy ("I am not entirely on anyone's side, because no one is entirely on mine." - J. R. R. Tolkien)
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To: rbg81

As I recall that’s how it was done in the comic books (Joker fell into a vat of acid at a playing card factory). I thought that was a good backstory.


32 posted on 08/31/2019 3:37:45 PM PDT by scrabblehack
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To: YogicCowboy
“Messianic Rebirth”:

No, thank you. I am past tired of seeing the evil rehabilitated, and the good disenfranchised, in Whollyweird propaganda.

Agreed.

33 posted on 08/31/2019 3:38:14 PM PDT by CondoleezzaProtege
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To: Bommer

It sounds like Occupy agitprop. I’m glad I don’t care about movies.


34 posted on 08/31/2019 3:39:51 PM PDT by Rastus
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To: be-baw

To each his own.

Although I enjoyed the entire Nolan trilogy, I preferred The Dark Knight Rises to The Dark Knight.

I collected comics long ago. I owned many hundreds of both Detective Comics and Batman Comics (more of each than of any other DC or Marvel titles) - my oldest Detective Comics went back to 1945. In other words, I know the genre - and this title - exceedingly well.

Heath Ledger played an idiosynchratic psychopath more than he played The Joker. The best portrayal of that actual character from the canon was by Jack Nicholson.


35 posted on 08/31/2019 3:43:06 PM PDT by YogicCowboy ("I am not entirely on anyone's side, because no one is entirely on mine." - J. R. R. Tolkien)
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To: rbg81

The Joker character was introduced in Batman #1 [1940].

The vat-of-chemicals origin story was introduced in Detective #168 [1951].


36 posted on 08/31/2019 3:49:41 PM PDT by YogicCowboy ("I am not entirely on anyone's side, because no one is entirely on mine." - J. R. R. Tolkien)
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To: montag813
Best thing about Phoenix is that he has always stayed far away from POLITICS.

Perhaps. Or he may be waiting for his moment with this movie. Which is obviously trying to give its take on the current state of our society. Good actor...but I am tired of demented states of mind propagated to the masses.

37 posted on 08/31/2019 4:24:00 PM PDT by CondoleezzaProtege
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To: be-baw
At some point, Joker will be in another Batman movie. Will he be played by Joaquin Phoenix, Jared Leo, or ?

...CESAR ROMERO!!!

38 posted on 08/31/2019 4:27:10 PM PDT by PJ-Comix
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To: be-baw
At some point, Joker will be in another Batman movie. Will he be played by Joaquin Phoenix, Jared Leo, or ?

...CESAR ROMERO!!!

39 posted on 08/31/2019 4:27:10 PM PDT by PJ-Comix
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To: Gay State Conservative
I know Jack Nicholson played him but I didn't see it.

Don't bother watching the Tim Burton Batman. Even back then it was corny (though I think Batman Returns was excellent and could have easily been part of the new series).

I'm sorry, but Michael Keaton was NEVER batman. It's like casting Eddie Murphy as Bob Hope.

40 posted on 08/31/2019 7:48:10 PM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist
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