Posted on 08/26/2019 7:32:10 AM PDT by C19fan
The second-in-command of a Navy submarine was fired this week, making him the third senior leader of a ship to be dismissed in two days.
Lt. Cmdr. Jonathan Cebik was removed Monday from his position as executive officer of the USS Jimmy Carter over concerns regarding his personal judgment. Two other senior officers were removed for the same thing Tuesday.
Such dismissals are by no means unusual, current and former Navy officers told the Washington Examiner. A 2004 Navy inspector general report found that 78 officers were removed for similar reasons between January 1999 and June 2004, an average of slightly more than one per month.
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It seems most typical for a peace time navy to have this rigid policy. In a wartime navy it would be cast aside or loosened significantly because in war ships are going to get dinged a few times.
Zero tolerance usually means you have a lazy command structure that either can’t or won’t lead and make reasonable decisions based on the events rather than the policy.
“Any Battle Plan doesn’t survive the first shot.”
Not at all: found your memories fascinating, since it mirrors some of my own experiences.
Sometimes we do a really lousy job of selecting our leaders.
Sometimes we get some really astonishingly stupid people into higher ranks - and I've know a bunch of them.
My favorite was a Lieutenant General who had a Stu-III (Top Secret capable) secure phone stolen from his official car because he was in bed with his Lance Corporal driver (female) - who was supposed to be watching the phone. He managed to retire quickly and was spared his well-deserved court-martial.
If it had been you or I, we would still be making big rocks into small rocks in Leavenworth.
Thanks for serving. Leadership is an interesting thing. I had some excellent officers I worked with. McCain was once my CO, but he was a bit of a zombie to me back then.
They treat leadership in the the civilian world quite differently, and not for the better IMO. I have had great leadership in my organization, but I know it isn’t so everywhere, that’s for sure.
I grew up in a military family and did a tour in myself, so I am very used to working in a hierarchical fashion...and I treat a chain of command in civilian life the exact same way I treated it growing up and in the Navy.
Analyzing leadership competency is a universal trait in us humans, and we can tell good leadership from bad leadership. (With the caveat that at least some of us fully see that great leadership can come from unsavory ends, and the obverse of that is also true...that poor leadership can come from gallant ends.)
And when you’re a second and third generation ring knocker it has to be even worse.
His grandfather was a very big deal in the Fast Carrier Task Force, the main strike arm of the Navy. He swapped roles with Marc Mitscher whenever Spruance and Halsey alternated command of the fleet.
And of course his father was CINPAC during Vietnam. Young John McCain III was as close to being Navy Royalty as you can get.
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