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To: Simon Foxx

Ah, a little Leyenda Negra for breakfast. Curiously enough, the major take-over activity of the Spanish seems to have been marrying the Indians after they had been Christianized, as you can see from the large mixed race population of Latin America. This was not true of the English population or their heirs, who managed to either kill or drive out almost all of the indigenous population from the areas where they settled. In the 18th century British colonists from Georgia and South Carolina wiped out the peaceful Franciscan Indian missions of Florida and Georgia, killing or enslaving thousands of Indians. The British settlers were angry at the Spanish because escaped slaves could gain their freedom if they crossed the border into Spanish Florida.


19 posted on 08/22/2019 8:48:49 AM PDT by livius
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To: livius

They also wiped them out because those Indians were Catholics - anti-clericalism being very much a “thing” among the early Protestant settlers of North America. (To be fair, the Spaniards did they same thing to the Protestant settlements that encroached onto their territory.) But the English settlers won out in the North and drove the Spaniards out. Those Indians of whom you speak turned out to be ‘collateral damage’.

Funny true story. My best friend’s wife’s father is from Argentine (and, at 92, is still going strong). Here was his take on the matter: Speaking disparagingly of Central Americans and Brazilians, he once told me: “They married their Indians - we Argentines wiped ours out!” *LOL*


21 posted on 08/22/2019 9:16:39 AM PDT by Simon Foxx
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To: livius

In regards the English settlements:

There’s also the attempted genocide by the Indians in 1622, set up by joining settlers for breakfast, or meeting for trade, and keeping women and children as slaves after slaughtering all the men. It was a year before the surviving settlers found out that many of the women were still alive.

This also follows the propensity to pretend friendly acts, like offering services as hunting guides, and then ambushing and holding captive the “friends”.

That’s going to color things.

Even Powhattan, who offered the settlers a place to build a town, tried to coerce them into being a captive settlement to produce goods for him.


48 posted on 08/22/2019 10:44:24 PM PDT by lepton ("It is useless to attempt to reason a man out of a thing he was never reasoned into"--Jonathan Swift)
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