Excellent thread about losing the House. I urge everyone to read this. Copying below except for images:
https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1165288876698669057.html
Here’s what people miss about losing the House but expanding the R control of the Senate in 2018 as part of Trump’s plan.
Keeping the House meant...and there’s no getting around this, it’s not debatable...keeping THIS GUY in charge of the House.
Yesterday Ken Cuccinelli revealed **A BIG HONKING REASON** that Ryan had to go:
https://social.quodverum.com/@NevadaJack/102670081306136027
U.S. Citizenship and Immigration Services Acting Director Ken Cuccinelli said yesterday that Paul Ryan “submarined” a Republican immigration initiative.
He called out Ryan during a Texas Public Policy Foundation panel for the former speaker’s lack of support for an immigration bill former Republican Virginia Rep. Bob Goodlatte sponsored, according to The Hill.
Ryan was literally BLOCKING everything Trump was trying to do on immigration.
You know it.
I know it.
Everybody knows it.
Trump knew immigration reform was never going ANYWHERE as long as Ryan was blocking everything.
https://www.dailycaller.com/2019/08/22/cuccinelli-ryan-immigration/
Cuccinelli Blames Paul Ryan For Stalling Immigration Action
So the plan was lose the House for 2 years while at the same time using the Judas Goats to make sure the Democrats in the House took the MOST EXTREME LUNATIC MEMBERS OF THE PARTY and put them out front as the ‘new face of the Party’.
Which is exactly what they did.
[Image of the 4 Mad Squad]
Something happened in that 2018, and people kick around various theories, but you look at the current STATE of the Democratic Party, do you see it getting STRONGER, winning independents, pulling in those in the middle?
I sure don’t. I see a party that is SELF-DESTRUCTING.
The Party leadership is constantly having to defend lunatics like Tlaib and Omar and AOC as their behavior gets more and more unhinged.
Donors aren’t giving, the GOP is way ahead in fundraising, and on the Presidential campaign front Dem nominees are currently led by this guy.
[Image of Biden]
As I wrote here, thus far the campaign season for the Democrats has been a flaming train wreck going off the tracks.
Radical Democrat Candidates Have Put Themselves in Impossible Position
Trump’s poll #’s keep going up, while the Democratic Party keeps trying to put out one internal fire after another.
All last week was engrossed with the Omar/Tlaib Traveling Road Show Farce involving their propaganda trip to Israel.
You look back at all the self-inflicted wounds the Dems have done to themselves in the last 8 months, deciding to openly embrace their inner radical and being OUT and PROUD about it & putting AOC, Omar & Tlaib out front and rationally NONE of this makes any sense.
I go back to what Ryan was telling Trump back in 2017/2018:
Give up this immigration reform fantasy, bro. It’s not happening. There will be no wall. We don’t need to fix the asylum system. Just stop already!
Wictor: I’m sure that Ryan said, “Whattaya gonna do, lose the House? Don’t make me laugh!”
What NOBODY—and that includes me—understood was that Trump would get the Squad elected so that he would lose both the Ryan wing of the party AND the Democrats.
After watching what the Democrats have done to themselves since that Nov. 2018 election, I don’t immediately dismiss this theory.
It’s almost as if Trump knew they’d engage in all the completely insane stuff we’ve watched them do for much of the past year.
People who see a Democratic Party growing STRONGER and building to a BIG ELECTION WIN in 2020 are clearly seeing a different picture from me, which is all the NORMAL PEOPLE still in the Democratic Party **leaving it**.
Trump **started** this process in 2016.
So much chest pounding went on after that huge Trump upset by Conservatives it can’t be pointed out enough:
disenfranchised and abandoned DEMOCRATS pushed Trump over the top in the Blue Wall states.
Without THEM? The Witch is President right now.
Around 77,000 votes.
A **rational** and **sane** Democratic Party would’ve spent the past 2 1/2 years trying to WOO those abandoned Democrats into coming home while trying to make sure they don’t have any more defectors.
Instead, what have they been doing?
It’s like the Democratic Party leadership sat down & said “How can we spend the next year PISSING OFF & DRIVING AWAY anybody else currently in our party who is a normal American patriot?”
Hey come on. Look over the last 8 months.
You know I’m right about this.
“Well, what caused so many people to turn on Obama, & what led to so many of these former Democratic voters to leave us & vote for Trump?” they asked themselves.
And they came up with this answer:
“Obama lying to them about ObamaCare, keeping their plans/Dr.’s, their premiums going down. And then our constantly making it clear we intend to replace blue collar working class people with illegal immigrants as our new base.”
And so here’s the **solution** to this **problem** that the Democratic Party came up with:
Having EVERY DEMOCRAT RUNNING FOR PRESIDENT boldly state they intend to take away your health care, force you into a state-run system & then RAISE YOUR TAXES to give it free to illegals.
I am not joking and I am not exaggerating. This is what they themselves have stated they intend to do.
All working class blue collar Democrats have to do to give these lunatics the power to implement this is VOTE FOR THEM.
The Democratic Party leadership managed to BRILLIANTLY take the TWO THINGS that caused angry Democratic blue collar voter defections in 2016 that led directly to Trump’s winning that election & **COMBINE** them into a major policy issue for this election in 2020.
Instead of **solving** the problem of blue collar voter defections to Trump, it’s like the Democratic Party is trying to intentionally DRIVE THEM ALL OUT right into Trump’s arms.
And I’m 100% in favor of them doing this, of course.
So while the Democratic Party is heading over the cliff, Trump doing just fine.
Trump will get re-elected & the GOP will retake control of the House & keep the Senate and the NEXT two years, from 2020-2022 is when even more winning happens
I’m speaking nationally, of course, in DC.
There will always be deep-blue states where Democrats are in charge of the local and state level politics.
Trump will be changing a lot of things but San Francisco is still gonna be San Francisco.
It’s become increasingly apparent that the D’s winning the House in 2018 not only eviscerated the GOP elite control of the House, somehow, through some kind of magic, it’s literally compelled the Democratic Party into some suicidal full scale BANZAI CHARGE into radical extremism.
And the standard comeback is “But Brian, they were ALWAYS RADICALLY EXTREME, bro!”
Well of course they were. I spent 30 years saying these people lie about what they really believe & what they will do if you hand them power.
But by some MIRACLE, a vast sea change has occurred in the last year.
The difference is that now all of a sudden they don’t HIDE their radical extremism anymore.
Trump seems to do something that COMPELS them to at last bring it proudly out into the open.
Unless you’ve spent 30 years studying the Democrats & how they operate, using euphemisms & clever language & outright lies to hide their real agenda **UNTIL AFTER YOU’VE VOTED THEM IN** you cannot grasp how radical this moment was.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O-QP5TBTVhY
Health Care For Undocumented Immigrants: Where The Candidates Stand | NBC News
The old Democratic Party **would NEVER in a million years** make this admission at this point.
It simply would not happen.
Their strategy would be to try to FOOL the voters into believing they wouldn’t do what they fully intend to do.
These current people have taken the old Democratic Playbook - which Obama & Co. used to PERFECTION to get ObamaCare passed - and ditched it.
It’s truly astonishing.
Democrats are on pace to put up an even WORSE candidate against Trump in 2020 than The Witch was.
AOC & Tlaib & Omar are now the angry incoherent anti-Semitic full blown commie face of the New Democratic Party, & Trump is taking full advantage of it.
And get this: Trump will have an ACTUAL RECORD to run on this time.
He was running with a deck stacked against him as an unknown in 2016, guy who’d never held office making a whole lot of promises.
That won’t be the case in November 2020.
So people who point to that big victory the Democrats had in the 2018 midterms in the House, who fully expect that to carry over into 2020?
I don’t see it. I don’t see a party building it’s momentum for a big election victory when I look at the Democrats.
That’s REPUBLICANS.
Remember all the fear mongering that went on right after that 2018 election? All the people telling you Trump was as good as impeached, Mueller was still coming, etc.?
What a difference 10 months makes.
/end
One thing wrong with the entire thesis of this article is that Ryan did not run for re-election from his district; so, he was never going to continue as Speaker no matter what the outcome of the election.
This is easily Vanity worthy for the FR front page forum and should be picked up beyond the trees, tweeted, retweeted and generally regarded as the least wordy, most comprehensive observation that we’ve seen in Ions of time, and nailing any question about what Reality looks like!
Print it, bind it and ship it. Love that piece, LJ.
Rita
If my memory is correct didn’t Ryan announce he was stepping down prior to the midterms? If so then Cates is not correct stating the house was lost to get rid of Ryan.
Excellent thread about losing the House. I urge everyone to read this. Copying below except for images:
https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1165288876698669057.html
Here’s what people miss about losing the House but expanding the R control of the Senate in 2018 as part of Trump’s plan.
Keeping the House meant...and there’s no getting around this, it’s not debatable...keeping THIS GUY in charge of the House.
Yesterday Ken Cuccinelli revealed **A BIG HONKING REASON** that Ryan had to go:
https://social.quodverum.com/@NevadaJack/102670081306136027 U.S. Citizenship and Immigration Services Acting Director Ken Cuccinelli said yesterday that Paul Ryan “submarined” a Republican immigration initiative. Ryan was literally BLOCKING everything Trump was trying to do on immigration.
You know it.
I know it.
Everybody knows it.
Trump knew immigration reform was never going ANYWHERE as long as Ryan was blocking everything.
https://www.dailycaller.com/2019/08/22/cuccinelli-ryan-immigration/ Cuccinelli Blames Paul Ryan For Stalling Immigration Action
So the plan was lose the House for 2 years while at the same time using the Judas Goats to make sure the Democrats in the House took the MOST EXTREME LUNATIC MEMBERS OF THE PARTY and put them out front as the ‘new face of the Party’.
Which is exactly what they did. [Image of the 4 Mad Squad]
Something happened in that 2018, and people kick around various theories, but you look at the current STATE of the Democratic Party, do you see it getting STRONGER, winning independents, pulling in those in the middle?
I sure don’t. I see a party that is SELF-DESTRUCTING. The Party leadership is constantly having to defend lunatics like Tlaib and Omar and AOC as their behavior gets more and more unhinged.
Donors aren’t giving, the GOP is way ahead in fundraising, and on the Presidential campaign front Dem nominees are currently led by this guy. [Image of Biden] https://www.theepochtimes.com/radical-democrat-candidates-have-put-themselves-in-an-impossible-position_2985109.html
Radical Democrat Candidates Have Put Themselves in Impossible Position
Trump’s poll #’s keep going up, while the Democratic Party keeps trying to put out one internal fire after another.
All last week was engrossed with the Omar/Tlaib Traveling Road Show Farce involving their propaganda trip to Israel.
You look back at all the self-inflicted wounds the Dems have done to themselves in the last 8 months, deciding to openly embrace their inner radical and being OUT and PROUD about it & putting AOC, Omar & Tlaib out front and rationally NONE of this makes any sense.
I go back to what Ryan was telling Trump back in 2017/2018:
Give up this immigration reform fantasy, bro. It’s not happening. There will be no wall. We don’t need to fix the asylum system. Just stop already!
Wictor: I’m sure that Ryan said, “Whattaya gonna do, lose the House? Don’t make me laugh!”
What NOBODY—and that includes me—understood was that Trump would get the Squad elected so that he would lose both the Ryan wing of the party AND the Democrats. After watching what the Democrats have done to themselves since that Nov. 2018 election, I don’t immediately dismiss this theory.
It’s almost as if Trump knew they’d engage in all the completely insane stuff we’ve watched them do for much of the past year. People who see a Democratic Party growing STRONGER and building to a BIG ELECTION WIN in 2020 are clearly seeing a different picture from me, which is all the NORMAL PEOPLE still in the Democratic Party **leaving it**.
Trump **started** this process in 2016. So much chest pounding went on after that huge Trump upset by Conservatives it can’t be pointed out enough:
disenfranchised and abandoned DEMOCRATS pushed Trump over the top in the Blue Wall states.
Without THEM? The Witch is President right now.
Around 77,000 votes. A **rational** and **sane** Democratic Party would’ve spent the past 2 1/2 years trying to WOO those abandoned Democrats into coming home while trying to make sure they don’t have any more defectors.
Instead, what have they been doing? It’s like the Democratic Party leadership sat down & said “How can we spend the next year PISSING OFF & DRIVING AWAY anybody else currently in our party who is a normal American patriot?”
Hey come on. Look over the last 8 months.
You know I’m right about this. “Well, what caused so many people to turn on Obama, & what led to so many of these former Democratic voters to leave us & vote for Trump?” they asked themselves. And they came up with this answer:
“Obama lying to them about ObamaCare, keeping their plans/Dr.’s, their premiums going down. And then our constantly making it clear we intend to replace blue collar working class people with illegal immigrants as our new base.” And so here’s the **solution** to this **problem** that the Democratic Party came up with:
Having EVERY DEMOCRAT RUNNING FOR PRESIDENT boldly state they intend to take away your health care, force you into a state-run system & then RAISE YOUR TAXES to give it free to illegals. I am not joking and I am not exaggerating. This is what they themselves have stated they intend to do.
All working class blue collar Democrats have to do to give these lunatics the power to implement this is VOTE FOR THEM. The Democratic Party leadership managed to BRILLIANTLY take the TWO THINGS that caused angry Democratic blue collar voter defections in 2016 that led directly to Trump’s winning that election & **COMBINE** them into a major policy issue for this election in 2020. Instead of **solving** the problem of blue collar voter defections to Trump, it’s like the Democratic Party is trying to intentionally DRIVE THEM ALL OUT right into Trump’s arms.
And I’m 100% in favor of them doing this, of course. So while the Democratic Party is heading over the cliff, Trump doing just fine.
Trump will get re-elected & the GOP will retake control of the House & keep the Senate and the NEXT two years, from 2020-2022 is when even more winning happens I’m speaking nationally, of course, in DC.
There will always be deep-blue states where Democrats are in charge of the local and state level politics.
Trump will be changing a lot of things but San Francisco is still gonna be San Francisco. It’s become increasingly apparent that the D’s winning the House in 2018 not only eviscerated the GOP elite control of the House, somehow, through some kind of magic, it’s literally compelled the Democratic Party into some suicidal full scale BANZAI CHARGE into radical extremism. And the standard comeback is “But Brian, they were ALWAYS RADICALLY EXTREME, bro!”
Well of course they were. I spent 30 years saying these people lie about what they really believe & what they will do if you hand them power. But by some MIRACLE, a vast sea change has occurred in the last year.
The difference is that now all of a sudden they don’t HIDE their radical extremism anymore.
Trump seems to do something that COMPELS them to at last bring it proudly out into the open. Unless you’ve spent 30 years studying the Democrats & how they operate, using euphemisms & clever language & outright lies to hide their real agenda **UNTIL AFTER YOU’VE VOTED THEM IN** you cannot grasp how radical this moment was.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O-QP5TBTVhY Health Care For Undocumented Immigrants: Where The Candidates Stand | NBC News
The old Democratic Party **would NEVER in a million years** make this admission at this point.
It simply would not happen.
Their strategy would be to try to FOOL the voters into believing they wouldn’t do what they fully intend to do. These current people have taken the old Democratic Playbook - which Obama & Co. used to PERFECTION to get ObamaCare passed - and ditched it.
It’s truly astonishing. Democrats are on pace to put up an even WORSE candidate against Trump in 2020 than The Witch was.
AOC & Tlaib & Omar are now the angry incoherent anti-Semitic full blown commie face of the New Democratic Party, & Trump is taking full advantage of it.
And get this: Trump will have an ACTUAL RECORD to run on this time.
He was running with a deck stacked against him as an unknown in 2016, guy who’d never held office making a whole lot of promises.
That won’t be the case in November 2020.
So people who point to that big victory the Democrats had in the 2018 midterms in the House, who fully expect that to carry over into 2020?
I don’t see it. I don’t see a party building it’s momentum for a big election victory when I look at the Democrats.
That’s REPUBLICANS.
Remember all the fear mongering that went on right after that 2018 election? All the people telling you Trump was as good as impeached, Mueller was still coming, etc.?
What a difference 10 months makes.
/end
Worth repeating, SS1
great compilation LJ
also fyi: looks like sneaky ron has been suspended again from new site.
ping me if he turns up again.