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Shark sightings have prompted numerous beach closures ... doesn’t mean there are more great whites
Boston.com ^ | August 15, 2019 | Dialynn Dwyer

Posted on 08/18/2019 1:20:52 PM PDT by Capt. Tom

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To: Capt. Tom

Yes— all that you mention and the fact that the entire sea coast area is a Protected Seal Habitat. Seals cover the place— and sharks luuuuv seals, and don’t distinguish them from the non tailed great white/black/whatever “seal humans”— that are preferred as they are NOT fast in the water.


21 posted on 08/18/2019 5:04:10 PM PDT by John S Mosby (Sic Semper Tyrannis)
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To: Capt. Tom

I read an article a year ago where researchers said they have probably been under counting GW’s. It’s notoriously hard to get numbers on fish in the sea, minus whales and dolphins. GW’s have been protected for nearly 20 years now and I’m sure there are more out there than we know.


22 posted on 08/18/2019 5:21:07 PM PDT by Amberdawn
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To: Roccus

In the far ago days that you are talking about, there was little or NO international protection for WHITE SHARKS & for SEALS. = The OVER-protection is the TRUE PROBLEM.
(For Tigers, Bulls & other “known to be man-eaters”, the MAJOR problem is CHUMMING-UP & even HAND-FEEDING sharks for the tourist trade, as once the dangerous sharks start associating people with FOOD, we have a REAL problem.)

I’ve studied sharks since I was a “shirttail kid” & once worked for Dr. Eugenia Clark, AKA: “The Lady with a Spear”, so I know a bit about sharks & their behavior.

Yours, TMN78247


23 posted on 08/18/2019 5:31:18 PM PDT by TMN78247 ("VICTORY or DEATH", William Barrett Travis, LtCol, comdt., Fortress of the Alamo, Bejar, 1836)
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To: Amberdawn
GW’s have been protected for nearly 20 years now and I’m sure there are more out there than we know.

Below is from the linked article. -Tom

This year, researchers also saw more shark activity in the early part of the season than has been witnessed in previous years.
“Most of the time things don’t begin happening in terms of numbers of white sharks really until mid-to-late July, and we had a lot of white sharks around in early July this year,” Skomal said. “So that gave us a couple to three weeks more of tagging as well. So that’s clearly the case where we had far more sharks, in our opinion, around in July than we had in previous years.”
Things slowed down near the end of July, but Skomal and Winton agreed that the activity appears to be picking back up again

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24 posted on 08/18/2019 5:33:05 PM PDT by Capt. Tom
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To: Capt. Tom

To avoid Great white shark attacks, just listen for the cello music in the background. The music starts slow, then speeds up as they get closer.


25 posted on 08/18/2019 6:33:40 PM PDT by Redcitizen (Tagline not secure.)
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To: Redcitizen

Actually, John Williams used a string bass, not a cello.


26 posted on 08/18/2019 6:42:36 PM PDT by Publius ("Who is John Galt?" by Billthedrill & Publius available at Amazon.)
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To: Publius
Whitesnake's Still of the Night's cello gives the girl fair warning, sneakin' around her door, etc.
27 posted on 08/18/2019 6:50:32 PM PDT by txhurl (whoa)
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To: Publius
Also Deep Purple's Knocking at your Back Door .. more cello warning.
28 posted on 08/18/2019 7:00:36 PM PDT by txhurl (whoa)
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To: Capt. Tom

I dunno, the term “Great White” sounds kind of racist. Perhaps they need to rename these sharks Big Ass Privileged sharks.


29 posted on 08/18/2019 8:01:19 PM PDT by Flick Lives (MSM, the Enemy of the People since 1898)
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To: TMN78247

Then you know that during those “far ago days” the NY Bight was thought to be a major nursery for whites yet the incidents were very low.
As to the amount of chumming done, I would throw 150+ lbs in a night from late May through Oct. and that was just one boat. Now count all the boats from Captree, Pt. Lookout, Freeport, Sheepshead Bay, Atlantic Highlands, Belmar, Brielle and other ports in those “far ago days” and double it for day trips as well. Plus, day fishing often went into November.
Now I’ll grant you, we weere not hand feeding sharks, but I seriously doubt the amount of chum being thrown today comes anywhere near what was thrown before the government started to destroy the sport fishing industry in the area.


30 posted on 08/18/2019 8:39:49 PM PDT by Roccus (When you talk to a politician...ANY politician...always say, "Remember Ceausescu")
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To: Capt. Tom

Here’s a site you might enjoy exploring
Mostly boats from NY and NJ but there is a section for “Distant Waters” also.
Some good old photos of Sheepshead Bay before the dinner-boat craze and Koch and his buddies started pushing the fishing boats out. Sadly the politicians were trying to do the same to Captree when I left NY.

http://www.mels-place.com/mmm/index.html


31 posted on 08/18/2019 9:18:18 PM PDT by Roccus (When you talk to a politician...ANY politician...always say, "Remember Ceausescu")
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The !@#$%^! government CLAIMS that they “stepped in”because of OVERFISHING.

Here in TX they did the same with our local BULL REDS - That’s where the “slot limit” & the “ONE TROPHY RED per fisherman per year” came from.
(NO shortage of BULL REDs here & hasn’t been, ever.)

We can thank the ODUMBO coven of far left MORONS & FOOLS for such utter NONSENSE.
(NOW, we have TOO MANY SEALS & thus TOO MANY White Sharks, too.)

Yours, TMN78247


32 posted on 08/18/2019 10:15:58 PM PDT by TMN78247 ("VICTORY or DEATH", William Barrett Travis, LtCol, comdt., Fortress of the Alamo, Bejar, 1836)
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We can thank the ODUMBO coven of far left MORONS & FOOLS for such utter NONSENSE.

Started LONG before Zer0 was even on the radar. From Wiki

The NMFS received the authority to conserve ocean wildlife through the passage of the Marine Mammal Protection Act in 1972 and the Endangered Species Act in 1973.[30] In 1976, the Magnuson-Stevens Fishery Conservation and Management Act, commonly referred to as the Magnuson–Stevens Act, gave the NMFS the authority to manage marine fish stocks, creating eight regional fisheries management councils to oversee fisheries,[30] and the Sustainable Fisheries Act of 1996 amended the 1976 legislation by making changes to authorize new ways of replenishing depleted fish stocks.[30] In 2007, President George W. Bush signed into law the Magnuson-Stevens Fishery Conservation and Management Reauthorization Act of 2006, which updated the Magnuson–Stevens Act with deadlines to end overfishing, increased use of market-based management tools, the creation of a national saltwater angler registry, and an emphasis on ecosystem approaches to management.[30]

Seats on the various regional fisheries councils were prime patronage positions, and like ALL gov't. institutions, it just began to mushroom and become corrupted to the point of total idiocy we see today. But various bureaucrats have their kingdoms and they WILL NOT be encroached on. So unless the whole thing is scrapped and redesigned by people who actually KNOW something, we can expect more and more mis-management.

33 posted on 08/19/2019 4:00:08 AM PDT by Roccus (When you talk to a politician...ANY politician...always say, "Remember Ceausescu")
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(NO shortage of BULL REDs here & hasn’t been, ever.)

I don't know what they're doing today, but in its early years the NMFS took no note of the cyclical nature of inshore fish stocks. Weakfish (similar to your sea trout, but a LOT bigger) are a case in point. I was an avid fisherman growing up, had heard about the grey hoards of weaks that used to thrive around LI, but had never seen one. Then in the early 70s those hoards returned....for a couple of years.....then they fell off sharply.
NMFS to the rescue with all kinds of regs. (when your ONLY tool is a hammer, everything is a nail) The FACT that weaks are cyclical, dependent on eel grass to hide the young of the year class from predation and that said eel grass beds for whatever reasons had shrunken was never considered.

........and so it goes.....

(sorry for the delay, Suddenlink sux!)

34 posted on 08/19/2019 5:26:12 AM PDT by Roccus (When you talk to a politician...ANY politician...always say, "Remember Ceausescu")
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To: Flick Lives

Man-eater!

That was the common name used for centuries to describe the shark species, Carcharodon carcharias.

From the 1975 movie “JAWS”:
Mayor Vaughn: “And what did you say the name of this shark is?”
Hooper: “It’s a Carcharodon carcharias. It’s a Great White.”

The 1975 Movie JAWS made the words “great white” and “white shark” popular with the public, and
“man-eater” is rarely used today. - Tom


35 posted on 08/19/2019 7:04:45 AM PDT by Capt. Tom
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