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Could Iron Replace Lithium in Batteries? Here's why scientists want to make the swap, stat.
www.popularmechanics.com ^ | Aug 14, 2019 | By David Grossman

Posted on 08/16/2019 10:56:35 AM PDT by Red Badger

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To: Pearls Before Swine

But, the possibility that batteries can be made of rust instead of lithium is worth investigating to see if it can be made a practical reality.


With that I firmly agree.

If it goes somewhere, that would be fantastic.


21 posted on 08/16/2019 12:27:19 PM PDT by cuban leaf (We're living in Dr. Zhivago but without the love triangle)
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To: Red Badger

“”These two favorable properties of iron have been overlooked for so many years. And that’s the reason why we don’t have iron ion rechargeable batteries,” Ramaprabhu says.”

No it wasn’t. Not as funding in research and development grants, awards and write offs could be had with Iron. Too common of a material. It had to be something rare to make any real money in the game. The ancient Baghdad battery used iron.


22 posted on 08/16/2019 12:38:30 PM PDT by Openurmind
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To: Openurmind

I’m sure they can iron out all the other problems, soon.................


23 posted on 08/16/2019 12:45:29 PM PDT by Red Badger (Against stupidity the gods themselves contend in vain......................)
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To: cuban leaf

This is research. It’s not a product yet. Most high tech goes thru a phase of “doable but not viable yet”.


24 posted on 08/16/2019 12:49:21 PM PDT by ctdonath2 (Specialization is for insects.)
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To: Red Badger

Lol, Thanks for the post. :)

Drives me nuts when so few can see through “why” they go certain directions in science. Is there more money in researching this irrational thing instead of that rational thing? Well then this is “why” without a doubt. The more impractical it is the more taxpayer money can be milked trying to prove it practical, if even ever. Some should never even be started at all based on realty and true practicality. Especially in the environmental science industry.


25 posted on 08/16/2019 1:03:29 PM PDT by Openurmind
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To: Openurmind

It’s kinda like the guys who won a Nobel Prize in Medicine for ‘discovering’ that ulcers were the result of bacteria in the stomach and not stress, alcoholism or nerves.

https://www.nobelprize.org/prizes/medicine/2005/press-release/

When it could have been ‘discovered’ a hundred years earlier, with some basic tools............


26 posted on 08/16/2019 1:08:04 PM PDT by Red Badger (Against stupidity the gods themselves contend in vain......................)
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To: ctdonath2

Yep, sure does. They have to drag out milking the system as much as they can for grants and funding first. Even if they know for a fact it is viable before they start.


27 posted on 08/16/2019 1:11:51 PM PDT by Openurmind
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To: Red Badger

Yep, and there are thousands of these scams. Many now days know for a fact that it is all fruitless even before they start. But with a good sales pitch, a lot of money can be made skimming because they have now created a tax shelter for money laundering, let alone the grants and awards on top of that. This is exactly what Tesla did to the tune of billions and billions.


28 posted on 08/16/2019 1:18:34 PM PDT by Openurmind
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To: BeauBo
"Iron is so plentiful, that it might be an option for mass storage on the electric grid."

Sodium is much more so, and is one of the preferred techs for grid-scale battery storage. There is also a strong possibility that sodium can displace lithium in solid-state batteries that have a glass electrolyte.

29 posted on 08/16/2019 1:24:22 PM PDT by Wonder Warthog (The Hog of Steel and NRA Life Member)
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To: Attention Surplus Disorder

I just had to replace a 50ah 48v LiFePO4 battery in my hot-dogging electric wheelchair (15mph! Wahoo!) Manufacturer wanted $3500! I found replacement cells on Ebay (Korean, top-of-the-line) for $725 including a new BMS board, delivered. Said to be good for 1-2000 cycles. The original died due to being flooded in a downpour, not wear and tear.


30 posted on 08/16/2019 2:04:56 PM PDT by pingman ("I ain't in no ways tarred.." of WINNING!)
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To: Red Badger

A perfectly modest proposal.

Reading through your recent battery threads, it becomes apparent that you have a large following of some incredible experts from many disciplines.

It is so obvious that you and your followers should form a start-up in battery technology.

Soon it would be the Musk and Red Badger TERA Battery factory.

What could possibly go wrong?


31 posted on 08/16/2019 2:19:47 PM PDT by DUMBGRUNT ("The enemy has overrun us. We are blowing up everything. Vive la France!"Dien Bien Phu last message.)
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To: Phlap
Which weighs more? A ton of feather or a to. Of gold?

"What do mean? A ton of feathers from African or European swallows?"

32 posted on 08/16/2019 8:23:15 PM PDT by Bommer (2020- Vote all incumbent congressmen and senators out! VOTE THE BUMS OUT!?)
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To: Phlap

A ton of feathers weighs more, but an ounce of gold weighs more than an ounce of feathers (avoirdupois vs troy weight).


33 posted on 08/16/2019 9:10:33 PM PDT by decal (I'm not rude, I don't suffer fools is all.)
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To: bigbob

“What do you get when you put an Edison battery in a Tesla?” sounds like a joke in search of a punchline.


34 posted on 08/17/2019 1:28:36 AM PDT by jmcenanly ("The more corrupt the state, the more laws." Tacitus, Publius Cornelius)
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To: Red Badger; AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Arthur Wildfire! March; Berosus; Bockscar; ...
Thanks Red Badger.

35 posted on 08/17/2019 10:59:14 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (Imagine an imaginary menagerie manager imagining managing an imaginary menagerie.)
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