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The Unknown History of Islam 10 - Atlantic Vs Islamic Slave Trade
CIRA International ^ | Jun 18, 2018 | Al Fadi and Jay Smith

Posted on 08/12/2019 7:15:24 PM PDT by fishtank

CIRA International Published on Jun 18, 2018

For almost fourteen centuries, billions of Muslims have accepted the traditional dates and historical accounts of the primary sources of Islam, never questioning their accuracy or authenticity. However...

Recent historical and archaeological discoveries reveal troubling inaccuracies in the traditional dates of the birth of Islam, it’s prophet, it’s book, and its major milestones, including the biographical accounts of Muhammad, the Uthmanic recension of the Quran, and the collection of Hadith.

Islam, as Muslims know it today, no longer holds true in terms of its origin, documents, holy city, or qibla.

Join Al Fadi and Dr. Jay Smith in this new video series by CIRA International Media as they examine all of these inaccuracies and share many shocking new revelations concerning the origin of Islam and its history.


TOPICS: Education; History; Religion
KEYWORDS: islam; islamicslavery; koran; muhammad; quran; slavery
.... They asked this:

Why does the Western Hemisphere have tens of millions of the descendants of African slaves,

but in the Middle East there are almost no descendants of African slaves that were taken captive by Muslims?

1 posted on 08/12/2019 7:15:24 PM PDT by fishtank
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To: fishtank

Have not listened to your linked video but the book “Swords and Scimitars” indicates that Muslims much preferred their slaves to be white Christians.


2 posted on 08/12/2019 7:21:07 PM PDT by caseinpoint (Don't get thickly involved in thin things.)
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To: fishtank

BUMP!


3 posted on 08/12/2019 7:21:25 PM PDT by PGalt
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To: fishtank

The Unknown History of Islam 08 - The Islamic View of Black People

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lE9QWwKasHs&t=19s


4 posted on 08/12/2019 7:22:14 PM PDT by fishtank (The denial of original sin is the root of liberalism.)
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To: caseinpoint

In the video, the two hosts say that the Western Hemisphere slave trade was mostly of males from Western Africa - to work the plantations.

In the Middle East, they said most of the slaves were females from East Africa - to work the harems.


5 posted on 08/12/2019 7:24:23 PM PDT by fishtank (The denial of original sin is the root of liberalism.)
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To: SunkenCiv

*(offered without review) ping*


6 posted on 08/12/2019 7:37:46 PM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (Who will think of the gerbils ? Just say no to Buttgiggity !)
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To: fishtank

“Why does the Western Hemisphere have tens of millions of the descendants of African slaves, but in the Middle East there are almost no descendants of African slaves that were taken captive by Muslims?”

Because they were significantly less altruistic about the institution. Also, in the Western Hemisphere, it was really far away from the supply, so they needed to breed slaves here, which was cheaper than importing more. In the Middle East, much closer to the supply, they could just geld the ones they had, and buy more. Harsh truth.


7 posted on 08/12/2019 7:38:17 PM PDT by cdcdawg (Fact: Dogs can extract more info from smelling a pile of $h!t than humans can from viewing CNN)
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To: fishtank

“In the Middle East, they said most of the slaves were females from East Africa - to work the harems.”

Pre-pubescent boys as sex slaves for men, was always a component of the muslim sex trade as well. They also had several functions where male slaves were used for hard labor, such as mining and galley slaves.

Such laborers were often restrained (chained or locked in) in ways that prevented them from ever having sex to reproduce. Male African slaves were often routinely castrated, if they were going to perform services where they would mingle with women more freely, like in households, businesses or caravans.

Finally, slaves, and their children, could be killed. In the case of Black Africans, Arab racial preferences led to an exceptionally high death rate among Black slaves and their children.


8 posted on 08/12/2019 7:38:28 PM PDT by BeauBo
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To: fishtank

Castration of all African male slaves is one answer I’ve heard.

Moreover, Islam apparently makes quite a big deal out of the whiteness of the false prophet, and teaches the inferiority of black persons so it hardly seems that Arabs in that religion would be eager for dark skinned lovers, does it?

For a mullato child who was freeborn who starts in Africa for them to stay in Africa where their relatively lighter skin might confer them some benefit may also make sense compared to migrating east and being disadvantaged by their relatively darker skin in that context. Conversely, there might have been benefits to be had to move West for such a child born in the near east.

Any number of such things working out over time could explain the demographics.


9 posted on 08/12/2019 8:08:50 PM PDT by Rurudyne (Standup Philosopher)
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To: fishtank
Peter Hammond's book: 'Slavery, Terrorism, and Islam' had a lot of information on this topic.
The gist of it was that many more black Africans were taken off to be slaves - but probably around 90% died during the transportation, and the males were castrated. The women slaves had their offspring murdered (by their 'pro-choice' slave owners).

The link below: is from one of his talks on this subject: .

Slavery, What You've never been told

10 posted on 08/12/2019 8:29:18 PM PDT by El Cid (Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, and thou shalt be saved, and thy house...)
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To: fishtank

And most of those slaves were sent to the Caribbean or S. America. The USA prohibited the importation of new slaves in 1808. With no new slaves coming in, slaves in the USA were treated much better than other places - where they would just work them to death and get new ones. Of course slave children became slaves in the USA - but another reason to keep the adults (and the kids) healthy.

Obviously any kind of slavery is terrible - but those in the USA had it far better than anywhere else.


11 posted on 08/12/2019 8:39:02 PM PDT by 21twelve (!)
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To: Nailbiter

#10 flr perusal


12 posted on 08/12/2019 8:45:12 PM PDT by Nailbiter
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To: fishtank

From what I read, muslims used female blacks for domestic and sex slavery and castrated the black males.


13 posted on 08/12/2019 9:03:15 PM PDT by Amberdawn
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To: fishtank

Thanks for the information. The whites were forced to join the harems and many Arabic lines became progressively whiter in skin color compared to the early Arabs.


14 posted on 08/12/2019 9:26:11 PM PDT by caseinpoint (Don't get thickly involved in thin things.)
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To: fishtank

l8r link


15 posted on 08/12/2019 11:54:28 PM PDT by preacher ( Journalism no longer reports news, they use news to shape our society.)
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To: fishtank

Slave markets were the big business of the time. Many of the slave markets were run and owned by Christians and Jews.


16 posted on 08/13/2019 1:29:39 AM PDT by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now it is your turn ...)
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