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To: Moonman62

Sorry, but you are pretty much wearing some rose colored classes... the number of “charging stations” doesn’t even meet 1% of the number of gas stations in this country and MANY are in private parking garages, not at your local gas station.

You are also ignoring the other fundamental problem, in that even if tomorrow miraculously every gas station suddenly had charging stations, the electrical grid production and infrastructure cannot provide the power necessary to charge all those vehicles.

To support a primarily electric vehicle fleet, TRILLIONS of dollars needs to be spent building new power stations and upgrading the transmission and delivery systems to be able to support it. Even if congress decided TODAY to start making it priority it would be decades before that work was done.. and do you see congress making that a priority? Hell an entire town and most of its population were burned to charred crisps due to poor upkeep on electric lines out in California...

The Electric Grid in the US is beyond neglected. What you are dreaming of is DECADES away IF IT WERE A PRIORITY, and its not.

As to the average person driving 30 miles a day... Sure, but people don’t LIVE in averages. Few people are going to spend 20 or 30k for an 80% solution. 80-90% of the time I commute less than 30 miles, but 10-20% of the time I drive a LOT more.. and unless you are someone who already has a vehicle you aren’t buying a limited vehicle as your ONLY vehicle.

Electrics are a niche and will be for a long time to come, for MOST people.


105 posted on 08/12/2019 10:00:16 AM PDT by HamiltonJay
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To: HamiltonJay

You’re biased, ignorant and wrong.


111 posted on 08/12/2019 10:14:28 AM PDT by Moonman62 (Charity comes from wealth.)
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To: HamiltonJay

“The lady doth protest too much, methinks”

But you are correct about the neglect of the national power grid.


116 posted on 08/12/2019 10:19:45 AM PDT by DUMBGRUNT ("The enemy has overrun us. We are blowing up everything. Vive la France!"Dien Bien Phu last message.)
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To: HamiltonJay

So my daughter’s boyfriend has a Tesla. In a recent trip they made between Salt Lake City and Colorado Springs, they took the Tesla. What probably should have been a 8 or 9 hour drive took them about 14. The boyfriend had to plan the drive to schedule charging station stops (I guess there is an app for that) and supposedly they have ‘rapid charge’ at some places, but not everywhere. So one of the stops took a few hours for the recharge because the rapid charge was down. The boyfriend says he gets 300 miles between charges, but I am not sure he can back that up except in the very best driving conditions. Seems really restrictive for making cross country trips.

I think the number of available charging stations works for the relatively small number of electrics on the road today, but it wouldn’t work for a larger fleet.

I am very much against any govt subsidy for this ‘transition’ to electric, and I dont think its possible to not be tax payer subsidized if you get ‘free’ charging enroute. I also think the carbon footprint (energy used) to drive fully electrics is bigger than the gas powered engine, and certainly hybrids, after the grid inefficiencies and losses are accounted for.


120 posted on 08/12/2019 10:28:04 AM PDT by Magnum44 (My comprehensive terrorism plan: Hunt them down and kill them.)
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