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To: C19fan

I’m hoping we avoid a war with Iran.

It’s a very big country. It would be foolish to try to “pacify” the countryside. We are not going to win “hearts and minds”. Any effort at “nation building” would be doomed to failure.

If push comes to shove, we could go in there and just break a whole bunch of stuff. But then we should get out. I think the War Powers Act says the President can use the military for 90 days without Congressional approval. Fine. Maybe we break stuff for 60 days and then spend 30 days pulling our assets out of the country. Done.


6 posted on 08/06/2019 6:16:32 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy (If White Privilege is real, why did Elizabeth Warren lie about being an Indian?)
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To: ClearCase_guy

[If push comes to shove, we could go in there and just break a whole bunch of stuff. But then we should get out. I think the War Powers Act says the President can use the military for 90 days without Congressional approval. Fine. Maybe we break stuff for 60 days and then spend 30 days pulling our assets out of the country. Done.]


Why would anyone go in there? Praying Mantis took all of 1 day, and was mostly accomplished with stand-off weaponry.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Praying_Mantis


9 posted on 08/06/2019 6:24:22 AM PDT by Zhang Fei (My dad had a Delta 88. That was a car. It was like driving your living room.)
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To: ClearCase_guy
It’s a very big country.

80m people ties them with France for 18th, just behind Germany. We have 330m.

636k sq mi area puts them 17th, behind Libya. We have 3.8m sq mi.

They have zero carriers, battleships, cruisers, destroyers, nuclear subs... We have some.

They have zero bombers, or fifth generation fighters... or fourth-generation fighters. We have... more than a few. (180 F-22s... 1000 F-18s... 400 KC-135 refueling tankers...)

They have 45 Mig-29 Fulcrum, and 45 F-14s... perfect for a 1980's Top Gun fight. They have 64 F-4's.... that we designed in 1968, and haven't used since 1990.

They have 3 Kilo class subs... three... designed in 1980. They have 23 mini subs, that are 120 tons displacement... 1/20 the size of the Kilo. Our Seawolf class subs are 9300 tons.

It would be foolish to try to “pacify” the countryside. We are not going to win “hearts and minds”. Any effort at “nation building” would be doomed to failure.

Half of the younger generations are VERY pro-Democracy. We don't need to win hearts and minds, they already want Freedom. You really need to find a few friends who live/d there. The mullahs are not popular, and are increasingly desperate to hang on to control... which makes them less popular.

18 posted on 08/06/2019 7:33:28 AM PDT by Teacher317 (We have now sunk to a depth at which restatement of the obvious is the first duty of intelligent men)
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To: ClearCase_guy

“I’m hoping we avoid a war with Iran.”

The Trump Doctrine, is to bankrupt our enemies.

Then let them yammer, or whatever.


25 posted on 08/06/2019 8:50:19 AM PDT by BeauBo
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