Posted on 08/02/2019 7:47:35 AM PDT by ConservativeMind
Sometimes, diet, exercise, sleep, and getting ones life otherwise in order still leaves gaps that medicines can help address.
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I know a guy...
Medical Underwriter here. We consider it an opioid and for insurance won’t touch anyone with a 10’ pole using it. Seen too many people crash and burn on it. May as well play with fentanyl.
Incorrectly, perhaps ?
Correlation and causation are two different critters.
just sayin'
Better to do without. People have it in their minds that life shouldn’t suck and they’ve been sold a bill of goods. Not only does life frequently suck, even badly, it is okay if it does. It is okay if people are depressed and unhappy, if they do without or are poor.
Thats what this is describing.
No, recreationally. The ER’s are starting to see an upswing in these cases too.
Ketamine— invented/formulated by Parke-Davis& Co. long ago— is , or was, a Veterinary product. In large enough doses will take down (knock out) an elephant.
So— “veterinarian office” use?... possibly. Lot of those workers can only relate to animals.. and, are depressed as relates to human interactions..... a theory anyway?
11 ear old drag kid demos snorting ketamine on the couch
https://twitter.com/i/status/1084332546895368192
“It is okay if people are depressed and unhappy, if they do without or are poor.”
I think you are confusing disappointment, sadness, and grief, with depression. Depression is different than being unhappy.
Depression (major depressive disorder) is a persistent, longterm emotional low. Often it is clinically diagnosed as repressed anger (i.e. anger turned inwardly).
There are degrees of depression in which a person may be unable to function or even live at all. Such emotional pain is not normative. Often people who seem to have everything going for them are severely depressed. They may be smart, well-liked, rich, physically fit and attractive, otherwise healthy, etc. but still depressed. The Kennedy girl who just died of an overdose is a good example.
Disappointment, sadness, and grief are things all people, including those who are totally healthy, experience. Depression is a mental illness which is not fully understood medically or scientifically. Or, at least the ultimate cure for depression has not been found by medical science.
I understand depression.
“It is okay if people’s lives suck” encompasses it.
They say ignorance is bliss. However, some people on this forum don’t claim to know everything and have a thirst for knowledge even when it upsets the status quo. But learning starts with knowing what you don’t know.
They say ignorance is bliss. However, some people on this forum don’t claim to know everything and have a thirst for knowledge even when it upsets the status quo. But learning starts with knowing what you don’t know.
I don’t claim to know everything.
But depression I know.
And it is simply okay if people’s lives just plain suck. In trying to medicate away the bad feels our society has only chased after the wind. Better to just cope and get on with life rather than have unrealistic expectations of it.
“In trying to medicate away the bad feels our society has only chased after the wind. Better to just cope and get on with life rather than have unrealistic expectations of it.”
That might be the answer for you or those you know firsthand. But it is not a blanket answer to the issue.
I do generally agree about medication. Some people are helped when they find the medication that is right for them, but for most it is a shot in the dark. And there are other ways of treating or coping (which is what you are describing) with depression.
Also, people are capable of experiencing multiple emotions at once. So a person can have general depressive disorder and still have times of joy, laughter, and happiness, while still always carrying a lingering sadness. Sometimes it is a matter of choosing to focus on what is positive in life. Often those with chronic depression are trapped in cyclical thought patters that keep them focussed on the negative.
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