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To Save Itself From Population Collapse, Hungary Offers Couples $35,000 For Having A Third Child
The Federalist ^ | 07/29/2019 | By Emma Elliott Freire

Posted on 07/29/2019 10:55:35 AM PDT by SeekAndFind

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To: NorthMountain

I like it!


21 posted on 07/29/2019 11:24:10 AM PDT by neverevergiveup
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To: SeekAndFind

22 posted on 07/29/2019 11:33:07 AM PDT by DCBryan1 (Quit calling them liberals, progs, socialists, or democrats. Call them what they are: COMMUNISTS!!!!)
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To: PapaBear3625

That’s actually pretty clever.


23 posted on 07/29/2019 11:40:19 AM PDT by babble-on
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To: Dr. Sivana; bgill
As if the world isn’t overcrowded already.

In the next 3 decades, most estimates are the world will peak at 9 billion, and then rapidly go into population decline, as soon China and later India join the ranks of countries with negative population growth rates. The question is what will happen in Africa, particularly sub-saharan Africa.

24 posted on 07/29/2019 11:47:05 AM PDT by PGR88
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To: SeekAndFind

We are hearing this population alarmism from a variety of corners. It is all about increased immigration into the West and especially the US. The political, corporate, and media elites want the flow of cheap, inexhaustible labor to continue unabated. It is all about money and power even if it means transforming our societies into Third World hellholes.


25 posted on 07/29/2019 11:54:34 AM PDT by kabar
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To: SeekAndFind

The Germans have had such programs for decades, i.e., Kindergeld. The German state pays €194 Euros a month per firstborn and secondborn child, with the figure going up to €200 for a third child and €225 for the fourth.


26 posted on 07/29/2019 11:56:20 AM PDT by kabar
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To: PGR88
China's fertility rate is 1.6 children born/woman (2018 est.), which is 181st in the world. It's annual population growth rate of 0.37% (2018 est.) is 165th in the world.

India's fertility rate is 2.4 children born/woman (2018 est.), which is 81st in the world. It's annual population growth rate of 1.14% (2018 est.) is 94th in the world.

The US fertility rate is 1.87 children born/woman (2018 est.), which is 142nd in the world. It's annual population growth rate of 0.8% (2018 est.) is 130th in the world.

Africa is the continent with the highest rates of population growth. If I were in Europe, I would be very afraid.


27 posted on 07/29/2019 12:11:44 PM PDT by kabar
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To: kabar
The political, corporate, and media elites want the flow of cheap, inexhaustible labor to continue unabated.

The "labor" myth. The reality is that the migrants are indolent welfare parasites and troublemakers.

28 posted on 07/29/2019 12:16:42 PM PDT by Spirochete (GOP: Gutless Old Party)
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To: socalgop

Maybe we can go live in Hungary


29 posted on 07/29/2019 12:21:36 PM PDT by combat_boots (God bless Israel and all who protect and defend her! Merry Christmas! In God We Trust!)
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30 posted on 07/29/2019 12:22:46 PM PDT by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: PapaBear3625

Ding! You want more kids? Get women to marry earlier. No really. It’s that simple. Unfortunately, education requirements in a modern economy and western culture have been pushing in the wrong direction. Women get married later now.....and as a result of waiting until it’s too late and their youth is gone, many don’t get married at all and have zero kids. This is a disaster for society - and for them ultimately.


31 posted on 07/29/2019 12:52:10 PM PDT by FLT-bird
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To: FLT-bird

There are other factors too, such as many young married couples putting off thinking about having children. And some put it off too late.

When are women most fertile? In their late teens and early 20s I would guess? Yet some women, especially if they are getting into professional careers, don’t even think about having children until in their 30s. And fertility has already started declining for many women by age 30, from what I hear.


32 posted on 07/29/2019 1:06:33 PM PDT by Dilbert San Diego
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To: SeekAndFind

Throw in a husband and maybe I’ll think about it. I have Hungarian relatives. They do make life interesting.


33 posted on 07/29/2019 1:07:51 PM PDT by Buttons12
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To: Dilbert San Diego

Their marriage prospects decline a good bit at 30 also.

Not surprisingly, women are most attractive to men when they are most fertile.


34 posted on 07/29/2019 1:09:48 PM PDT by FLT-bird
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To: Dilbert San Diego

Abolish the welfare state. Replace it with parents getting a percentage of the taxes paid by each kid. Suddenly you provide an incentive to have lots of productive kids.


35 posted on 07/29/2019 1:15:21 PM PDT by SauronOfMordor (Socialists want YOUR wealth redistributed, never THEIRS!)
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To: FLT-bird
Ding! You want more kids? Get women to marry earlier. No really. It’s that simple. Unfortunately, education requirements in a modern economy and western culture have been pushing in the wrong direction.

It shouldn't. Why should marriage have to wait until after college and after being settled in a career? Don't college kids share a dorm with roommates? Why couldn't a husband and wife attend college together?

Why is it a requirement to wait to get married until your work situation is good enough to buy a house? Prior generations married early and lived frugally until they got into better economic levels

36 posted on 07/29/2019 3:18:00 PM PDT by PapaBear3625 ("Those who can make you believe absurdities, can make you commit atrocities." -- Voltaire)
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To: kabar
The Germans have had such programs for decades, i.e., Kindergeld. The German state pays €194 Euros a month per firstborn and secondborn child, with the figure going up to €200 for a third child and €225 for the fourth.

Which is how illiterate Achmed and Isha (both unemployed, and generally unemployable) monetize their spawn of six to ten (on top of rent grants and other sundry benefits) to make a pretty good life for themselves at a level much better than they could ever hope for in their home country... while Michael and Michaela can't really afford to have more than one child if they want to keep their hard-earned middle class life style due to a crippling tax burden and high housing costs. Which are used to subsidize...go back to the top of this paragraph...

37 posted on 07/29/2019 4:16:08 PM PDT by Moltke (Reasoning with a liberal is like watering a rock in the hope to grow a building.)
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To: Moltke

I didn’t say these programs work. Having lived 4 years in Germany and married to a German for 50 years, there are myriad reasons why ethnic Germans are not reproducing. Much of it has to do with an over-regulated, over-taxed society and the legacy of communism in the East. Despite the great economic prosperity of Germany as a country, wealth has not trickled down to the individual who sees it very difficult to change their station in life. As a result, Germans are more interested in themselves than the sacrifice necessary to raise a family.

Having lived 13 years in Europe in five different countries, I have seen the insidious consequences of the welfare state. It stifles the individual. People are on an endless treadmill to nowhere.


38 posted on 07/29/2019 4:43:51 PM PDT by kabar
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To: kabar

Oh, I wasn’t criticizing you or your comment as such. Just trying to point out the abject failure of a well-intentioned (heh!) gov’t welfare program. As they are prone to fail...

I agree with your further comments... over-taxed, over-regulated (and about to get worse with all that CO2 pseudo-religious foolishness); where’s the joy for starting/growing a family in that?


39 posted on 07/29/2019 4:58:10 PM PDT by Moltke (Reasoning with a liberal is like watering a rock in the hope to grow a building.)
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To: Moltke

Depressing.


40 posted on 07/29/2019 5:22:19 PM PDT by kabar
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