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To: OIFVeteran
That wasn’t good enough for them, they wanted their own country where slavery would be the cornerstone that the country was built on.

What does that even mean? The United States of America had slavery in every state when it was founded. One of the complaints against George III in the Declaration of Independence was that he was fomenting slave revolts.

You guys keep trying to split hairs between the legal slavery Union and legal slavery Confederacy, and there really is no compelling argument to be put forth from that direction.

The UNION was a legal slavery Union for four score and seven years. In fact it had slavery longer than the confederacy, and only gave it up through Dictator control and constitutional trickery.

Without committing illegal/immoral acts, they could have never gotten rid of slavery in the 1860s.

321 posted on 08/11/2019 1:21:52 PM PDT by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no oither sovereignty.")
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To: DiogenesLamp; OIFVeteran
DiogenesLamp to OIFVeteran: "What does that even mean?
The United States of America had slavery in every state when it was founded.
One of the complaints against George III in the Declaration of Independence was that he was fomenting slave revolts. "

Slavery is never mentioned directly in either the Declaration or the Constitution.
Thomas Jefferson did write a powerful anti-slavery paragraph for the Declaration, but his fellow Southerners wouldn't have it.

DiogenesLamp: "You guys keep trying to split hairs between the legal slavery Union and legal slavery Confederacy, and there really is no compelling argument to be put forth from that direction. "

Complete rubbish!

DiogenesLamp: "The UNION was a legal slavery Union for four score and seven years. "

The UNION allowed abolition for four score and seven years, the Confederacy prevented that.

DiogenesLamp: "In fact it had slavery longer than the confederacy, and only gave it up through Dictator control and constitutional trickery."

The Union allowed abolition from Day One while Confederates only gave up slavery after a four year war killing ~700,000 soldiers and final Unconditional Surrender.

No "Dictator" ratified the 13th Amendment, states did, willingly, according to the wishes of their voters.

DiogenesLamp: "Without committing illegal/immoral acts, they the Confederacy could have never gotten rid of slavery abolition in the 1860s."

Fixed it.

332 posted on 08/12/2019 6:10:55 AM PDT by BroJoeK ((a little historical perspective...))
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To: DiogenesLamp

Facts: The US Constitution allowed states the ability to make slavery illegal. It also allowed Congress to outlaw slavery in the territories.
The CS constitution did the opposite. It mandated all current states and new stares must allow slavery. (So much for stared rights.) It also mandated that any territory acquired by the CSA must allow slavery.


333 posted on 08/12/2019 6:11:31 AM PDT by OIFVeteran
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