[DiogenesLamp]

This is so stupid. Madison was a member of the committee that wrote Virginia's ratification statement. Virginia clearly said it can reassume it's powers given up to the Federal government. If Madison had any issues with this position, he should have voiced them during the committee meetings.

Virginia's collective statement, and one of which Madison was a part, rebukes Madison's 1830 claim. So do the statements of New York and Rhode Island.

Madison of 1830 would have us believe no one had contemplated leaving the Union, but the ratification statements of New York, Virginia, and Rhode Island clearly prove that they did.

What's that legal term of art?

"Falsus in uno, falsus in omnibus."

[jeffersondem]

“Virginia's collective statement, and one of which Madison was a part, rebukes Madison's 1830 claim. So do the statements of New York and Rhode Island.”

I'm glad I'm on your side. I wouldn't want to have to argue against the facts you bring to the discussion.

[BroJoeK]

DiogenesLamp: "This is I am so stupid."

Fixed it, and here's why:

DiogenesLamp: "Madison was a member of the committee that wrote Virginia's ratification statement.
Virginia clearly said it can reassume it's powers given up to the Federal government.
If Madison had any issues with this position, he should have voiced them during the committee meetings."

Neither Virginia, nor Madison, nor any other Founder ever proposed or supported unilateral declaration of secession at pleasure.

DiogenesLamp: "Virginia's collective statement, and one of which Madison was a part, rebukes supports Madison's 1830 claim.
So do the statements of New York and Rhode Island."

Fixed it.
Neither Virginia, nor Madison, nor New York, nor Rhode Island ever proposed or supported unilateral declaration of secession at pleasure.