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Posted on 07/22/2019 5:27:15 AM PDT by napscoordinator

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To: BobL

Monochromatic blue emissions have been implicated in retinal damage. Not enough studies to consider proof positive. That is commonly enitted by LCD/LED computer displays and cool white or daylight LED lamps.

I have Advanced Macular Degeneration occurring, the dry version. Basically, it’s retinal cell death, inexorable and incurable. Yes, I can hope for a stem-cell cure but I’m not holding my breath. I’m old and my warranty has long expired.

You can self-test for the start of AMD. Just print an Amsler grid. If you have the wet version, there are shots to help you.

FWIW, I was an early adopter of LED screens. I have 3 large monitors 24” away, and now I minimize my former hours-per-day exposure. House lighting has been warm white LED (~2300K) for dimmable circuits. I avoid my tablet and kindle for reading, though I will need them for reading at some point.

YMMV. Keep in mind the ‘inverse square’ rule. Radiation amplitude declines by the inverse square of the distance. So that 24” exposure can be reduced significantly by moving the monitors 30” away, for example. And I’ve changed desktops backgrounds from light blue to faggy pink. Too bad there’s nothing to do about web pages other than invert the screen colors.


61 posted on 07/22/2019 6:32:47 AM PDT by IgnaciKat (RIME)
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To: moovova

Once the warm white came out in multiple configurations, I started switching over.


they needed to cross two hurdles for me. That was one of them. The other was price. I would not even consider the high color temperature ones for anything other than where I actually want to immitate daylight.


62 posted on 07/22/2019 6:33:22 AM PDT by cuban leaf
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To: George from New England

Why is it that even bulbs used in an auto application flicker? That one really puzzles me.


63 posted on 07/22/2019 6:34:13 AM PDT by cuban leaf
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To: cuban leaf

LED flashlights are a major improvement over the old incandescent bulbs too.


64 posted on 07/22/2019 6:40:55 AM PDT by Rebelbase
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To: from occupied ga

PA College of Optometry


65 posted on 07/22/2019 6:42:14 AM PDT by NativeSon ( Grease the floor with Crisco when I dance the disco)
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To: Rebelbase

LED flashlights are a major improvement over the old incandescent bulbs too.


That one is probably the biggest one for me. I used to bicycle commute in Seattle, and that meant a lot of night riding. Headlights were REALLY expensive and used a six volt battery in a “water bottle”. Now, they are cheap, ridiculously bright, and light.

I have one of those old D-Cell “police style” flashlights that I keep just to show people how LED’s have changed the whole flashlight thing. I use a c-cell LED flashlight from costco that puts out more light than an entire bucket of those old incandescent ones. And it has a beam that is adjustable from very wide flood to pencil beam. I live in a home where I’m surrounded by seven acres of lawn surrounded by forest. I can use that thing to spot things in trees well over a hundred yards away. The old incandescent looks like the light of a matchstick in comparison.

And the batteries last a very long time.


66 posted on 07/22/2019 6:47:05 AM PDT by cuban leaf
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To: napscoordinator

I never had a problem with LEDs. It was the POS CFLs that curdled my milk. Every conventional bulb that fails at our house is replaced by an LED.


67 posted on 07/22/2019 6:49:20 AM PDT by Tucker39 ("It is impossible to rightly govern a nation without God and the Bible." George Washington)
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To: Fresh Wind

I don’t like them. They flicker and haven’t brought down the electric bill at all. Mr. b insists on the bright white ones that make everything look like a factory instead of a cozy home. They also make ground beef the color of hwy cones.


68 posted on 07/22/2019 6:51:31 AM PDT by bgill
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To: okkev68

At first I just used them in closets, because they lasted so long.


69 posted on 07/22/2019 6:51:53 AM PDT by ImJustAnotherOkie (All I know is The I read in the papers.)
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To: from occupied ga
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4734149/ (earlier work, other interesting data)

Reducing Short-Wavelength Blue Light in Dry Eye Patients with Unstable Tear Film Improves Performance on Tests of Visual Acuity Published: April 5, 2016https://doi.org/10.1371/journal.pone.0152936

70 posted on 07/22/2019 6:52:18 AM PDT by NativeSon ( Grease the floor with Crisco when I dance the disco)
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To: napscoordinator

IT’S A CONSPIRACY, I TELL YA!........................


71 posted on 07/22/2019 6:53:36 AM PDT by Red Badger (Against stupidity the gods themselves contend in vain......................)
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To: stars & stripes forever

I had LED lights installed above my dining room table, home to my laptop. They lights gave me headaches, which went away after I had the old-fashioned lights reinstalled. (Thankful they still had them).

Harsh fluorescent lights bother me too.

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Some of the early LED bulbs had pronounced 60 cycle flicker.

You may not have a problem with the newer ones.


72 posted on 07/22/2019 6:54:28 AM PDT by Moonman62 (Charity comes from wealth.)
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To: stars & stripes forever
I had LED lights installed above my dining room table, home to my laptop. They lights gave me headaches, which went away after I had the old-fashioned lights reinstalled. (Thankful they still had them).

Harsh fluorescent lights bother me too.

'Daylight' fluorescents and 'bright white' LED have a lot of blue in their spectrum, this affects some people adversely. The blue light makes the lights seem harsh, but worse, your body uses blue light to regulate the hormones that control your circadian rhythm, excess blue light in the evening can throw of your sleep/wake cycle.

If you try LED lighting again stick with warmer lamps, they more closely mimic incandescents. Look for the color temperature of 2700K.

Also, consider adding f.lux to your computer and smartphone, this cuts back the blue in the evenings and helps maintain your sleep schedule. I love mine.

73 posted on 07/22/2019 6:56:47 AM PDT by null and void (The Democratic Party is back to loving workers but hating employers. A winning formula I'm sure.)
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To: central_va

See post #73


74 posted on 07/22/2019 6:59:20 AM PDT by null and void (The Democratic Party is back to loving workers but hating employers. A winning formula I'm sure.)
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To: cuban leaf
The one thing I simply have to have incandescent bulbs for:

My LavaLamp collection. I have a dozen. They need the heat.

That and the EasyBake oven...

75 posted on 07/22/2019 7:00:25 AM PDT by null and void (The Democratic Party is back to loving workers but hating employers. A winning formula I'm sure.)
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To: stars & stripes forever

There are new LEDs on the market that have a lower color temperature, closer to that of incandescents. The early ones were too blue, much like fluorescent tubes.


76 posted on 07/22/2019 7:01:09 AM PDT by Fred Hayek (The Democratic Party is now the operational arm of the CPUSA)
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To: cuban leaf

A car has what — an alternator

It creates ac from its rotation from the fan belt, etc.

Then the car battery is supposed to filter out most of the alternating current (ac). There are rectifiers/diodes with the alternator power source.


77 posted on 07/22/2019 7:03:27 AM PDT by George from New England (escaped CT in 2006, now living north of Tampa)
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To: from occupied ga

What I posted is not my work. My interest originated with neuropharmacology and my school’s work with L’Oréal in development of an in vitro alternative to the Draize Test.


78 posted on 07/22/2019 7:03:33 AM PDT by NativeSon ( Grease the floor with Crisco when I dance the disco)
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To: napscoordinator

They still haven’t produced a brightness equivalent for 200/250 watt incandescent that have the same form factor.

It’s hard reading by a 100 watt equivalent LED, especially for older eyes.


79 posted on 07/22/2019 7:08:25 AM PDT by oldbill
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To: Fresh Wind
Also, some of them flicker for no good reason (even when not on a dimmer).

This, and for some reason, the bulbs that should last thousands of hours only last for about a year, max.

80 posted on 07/22/2019 7:10:06 AM PDT by IYAS9YAS (There are two kinds of people: Those who can extrapolate from incomplete data.)
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