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House bill wants DoD to stop using Confederate symbols and names
War is Boring ^ | July 15, 2019 | Rose L. Thayer

Posted on 07/15/2019 11:58:35 AM PDT by C19fan

The Defense Department might be prohibited from naming assets after Confederate symbols should an amendment added to the House defense budget make its way into the final version of the law.

The amendment, added Thursday to the National Defense Authorization Act for fiscal year 2020, was submitted by Rep. Gregory W. Meeks, D-N.Y. The annual legislation cleared the House on Friday by a vote of 220-197.

The Army and Navy are now the only branches of the military with any assets named after symbols of the Confederacy, according to a September 2017 Congressional Research Service report on Confederate symbols on federal land.

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TOPICS: History
KEYWORDS: confederacy; gregorymeeks; gregorywmeeks; libtards; newyork; newyorkcity
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To: C19fan

So what’s the deal? Everything needs to be named after Obama, or Harvey Milk, or Rosie O’Donnell????


41 posted on 07/15/2019 1:28:23 PM PDT by Dilbert San Diego
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To: C19fan; Jim Robinson; Lurkinanloomin; FreedomUS; Jim Noble; BroJoeK
I am going to mail this letter below to about 40 papers and commentators and save it for the Senate if they have to take up the issue. If anyone is interested in a very, very, very long post on the same subject see my comment at:

Ted Cruz Slams Tennessee Law Honoring Confederate General, KKK Grand Wizard Nathan Bedford Forest https://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3763794/posts

Demeaning Our Military Heritage

This country owes as much of its enviable martial heritage to the South at places like Chancellorsville as to the North at places like Gettysburg. But now to serve popular new morality, the House would tell the Department of Defense to banish any mention of those tremendous feats of arms and the soldiers who fought, if they served in the Confederacy. For 1,500 days, Americans killed Americans until over 700,000 died in battles, hospitals, and prisons, and this country in due course recognized everyone’s determination and resolve by legally defining all as veterans.

In responding to this latest initiative, I quote Major General Joshua Chamberlain who received the Confederate surrender at Appomattox.

“Before us in proud humiliation stood the embodiment of manhood: men whom neither toils and sufferings, nor the fact of death, nor disaster, nor hopelessness could bend from their resolve; standing before us now, thin, worn, and famished, but erect, and with eyes looking level into ours, waking memories that bound us together as no other bond;—was not such manhood to be welcomed back into a Union so tested and assured?”

Winston Churchill commented concerning American entry into WW II that victory was then assured, because our Civil War demonstrated the tenacity required to defeat the Nazis.

42 posted on 07/15/2019 1:32:59 PM PDT by Retain Mike ( Sat Cong)
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To: Bull Snipe

Missionary ridge ruined him.


43 posted on 07/15/2019 1:34:13 PM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: Freedom4US
“Accede to one demand, why, they got ten more ready to go.”

Remember when U.S. Supreme Court members voted to pass a law to legalize and federalize the definition of marriage to include perversion back in June 2015?

And remember that within 48 hours we began to hear the first of many calls for mandatory homosexual cupcake production quotas for bakers and for trans-this and trans-that.

If Congress can be forced to dishonor ethnocentric southerners from the 1800’s, there will be immediate calls to dishonor ethnocentric northerners from the same period. Men like Abraham Lincoln whose views on racial supremacy are well documented.

We have already seen wild claims about Betsy Ross in recent days.

Our elites have put their marker down: the election of Obama was the first time any decent human could be proud of our country.

44 posted on 07/15/2019 1:49:17 PM PDT by jeffersondem
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To: xzins; C19fan

Rommel’s book was entitled: “Infantry in the Attack” or “Infantry Attacks” depending upon how “Infanterie greift an” is translated. It had nothing to do with armor, but the concepts of the “in direct approach” is applicable to armor operations. The primary books on using armor that were written in the 1930s were by B.H. Liddell-Hart, J.F.C. Fuller, and Charles DeGaulle.

Both Patton and Eisenhower were counseled that continuing to write articles that supported armor tactics and as a separate branch from the infantry would be detrimental to their careers. They ceased writing, but continued their theorizing.


45 posted on 07/15/2019 1:49:25 PM PDT by GreyFriar (Spearhead - 3rd Armored Division 75-78 & 83-87)
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To: central_va

Think you are correct.


46 posted on 07/15/2019 1:52:33 PM PDT by Bull Snipe
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To: C19fan

Ok, soon as California stops naming their cities after Catholic saints.


47 posted on 07/15/2019 3:37:33 PM PDT by BusterDog
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To: Retain Mike

Congress declared Confederate soldiers to be American soldiers.


48 posted on 07/15/2019 4:24:50 PM PDT by myerson
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To: myerson

Congress said it would provide gravestones for Confederate veterans and pay pensions to their widows (in 1958, after virtually all Confederate veterans were dead), but it didn’t say that they were to be considered US veterans or soldiers.


49 posted on 07/15/2019 4:32:05 PM PDT by x
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To: jeffersondem
"If Congress can be forced to dishonor ethnocentric southerners from the 1800’s, there will be immediate calls to dishonor ethnocentric northerners from the same period. Men like Abraham Lincoln whose views on racial supremacy are well documented."

Right, I'm from Iowa. Not exactly "Old Dixie" territory. I know exactly how this plays out if they aren't stopped. They'll be blowing up Mt Rushmore the first chance they get. Nobody in the past can live up to modern standards of conduct. The reverse is probably true as well, but that's not the game we're playing. And actual history instruction has been expunged, and actual historians are awfully quiet these days. Just like actual scientists. Or actual economists. But I digress.

What is sad, America is probably the only country where "multiculturalism" has been tried. And it was for a time very successful. I'm not sure when exactly it went from "We all need to get along" and "Judged by the content of our character, not the color of our skin" to "Whitey needs to die" but at some point from the turbulent years of the 1960s till now they flipped the script completely. Was that the plan along? I don't know. It is satanic, though.
50 posted on 07/15/2019 6:30:24 PM PDT by Freedom4US
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To: x

He might be right about that. My view is that, while some might find the “Stars and Bars” offensive, everyone can find something to get offended about if they look hard enough. It is what it is, part of our history. In that context, I believe cemetaries for example, where either Union and Confederate soldiers are buried, should be exempt, or it should be understood. It seems to me we as a society should look to the future, and not the past, while at the same time we honor the soldiers that fought bravely on both sides in that war. They deserve that much.


51 posted on 07/15/2019 6:38:52 PM PDT by Freedom4US
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To: central_va

The plural of Cannon is Cannon!

Please make a note of it. That is all.


52 posted on 07/15/2019 6:40:03 PM PDT by Freedom4US
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To: Freedom4US

What about deer, moose and sheep with cannon?


53 posted on 07/15/2019 6:50:24 PM PDT by Alas Babylon! (The media is after us. Trump's just in the way.)
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To: C19fan

What BS!


54 posted on 07/15/2019 7:06:10 PM PDT by Jack Hammer
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To: x

SORRY but you are 100% WRONG. = A federal law was overwhelmingly passed by Congress in 1914 & signed by POTUS Woodrow Wilson.
(I used to have a copy of the law.)

The law specifically stated that ALL Confederate veterans were also US VETERANS & entitled to all of the same benefits as any other veteran.

JACKSON CIRCLE (named after GEN Stonewall Jackson) at Arlington National Cemetery has had US-provided CSA gravestones since the 19th Century.
(Union gravestones are rounded on top & CSA gravestones are pointed on top.)

Notes:
1. The sisters of MAJ Audie Murphy, of WWII fame, requested a “pointed top” tombstone to mark his grave at ANC. - The request was refused as those stones are reserved for CSA veterans.
and
2. The last CSA veteran (unless another unburied corpse has been discovered since) was interred in Section 161 in 2009.

Yours, TMN78247


55 posted on 07/15/2019 7:38:38 PM PDT by TMN78247 ("VICTORY or DEATH", William Barrett Travis, LtCol, comdt., Fortress of the Alamo, Bejar, 1836)
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To: myerson
Yep. Here are the links.

Confederate Soldiers Are Considered U.S. Veterans Under Federal Law-Truth! https://www.truthorfiction.com/confederate-soldiers-are-considered-u-s-veterans-under-federal-law/

Confederate Soldiers – American Veterans by Act of Congress https://www.veteranstoday.com/2013/04/03/confederate-soldiers-american-veterans-by-act-of-congress/ https://www.veteranstodayarchives.com/2011/04/14/confederate-soldiers-are-american-veterans-by-act-of-congress/

56 posted on 07/15/2019 10:09:43 PM PDT by Retain Mike ( Sat Cong)
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To: Retain Mike

Public Law 810 refers to Part II, Chapter 23 of U.S. Code 38 which says that the government should, when requested, pay to put up monuments or headstones for unmarked graves for three groups of people:
(1) Any individual buried in a national cemetery or in a post cemetery.
(2) Any individual eligible for burial in a national cemetery (but not buried there), except for those persons or classes of persons enumerated in section 2402(a)(4), (5), and (6) of this title.
(3) Soldiers of the Union and Confederate Armies of the Civil War.

Public Law 85-425 was passed 23 May 1958, entitling the widows of deceased Confederate soldiers to military pensions:
To increase the monthly rates of pension payable to widows and former widows of deceased veterans of the Spanish-American War, Civil War, Indian War, and Mexican War, and provide pensions to widows of veterans who served in the military or naval forces of the Confederate States of America during the Civil War.

No where in either piece of legislation are Confederate soldiers declared to be American veterans.


57 posted on 07/16/2019 8:45:49 AM PDT by Bull Snipe
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To: Bull Snipe

Since they are grouped together in the same sentence, Union soldiers cannot be American veterans either.


58 posted on 07/16/2019 9:27:40 PM PDT by Retain Mike ( Sat Cong)
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To: Retain Mike

Their status is defined elsewhere in law. This chapter dealt with pensions for widows.


59 posted on 07/17/2019 3:34:28 AM PDT by Bull Snipe
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To: Bull Snipe

When I passed the Confederate soldiers buried at Arlington Cemetery there was no sign indicating they were not real Americans.


60 posted on 07/17/2019 9:30:38 AM PDT by Retain Mike ( Sat Cong)
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